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Who’s In At LDE? We Have Our Answer

Posted Mar 25, 2009 by Roy Cummings

Updated Mar 25, 2009 at 07:45 AM

By ROY CUMMINGS
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TAMPA – We have an answer to the question we posed earlier in the week about the left defensive end position.

With Kevin Carter still floating around in free agency the Bucs are currently working Stylez G. White and Jimmy Wilkerson at that spot.

The competition will eventually expand to include at least three players, but it’s not certain Carter will be one of them.

The Bucs haven’t given up on the idea of keeping Carter, but his future may rest with what’s available to the Bucs in the draft.

Yes, it appears a defensive end is something the Bucs will look closely at adding during draft weekend.

One thing to keep in mind, though, is that the role of the defensive left end is often far different than the role of a defensive right end.

In most defensive schemes the left end is primarily a run stopper, which means the Bucs won’t have to spend their first-round pick on this spot.

They still could, though. As we pointed out before, White struggled to make the transition to left end last year and Wilkerson seems best suited for the right side, too.

The Bucs can always bring Carter back, though, so they may be looking more at someone like Kyle Moore of USC, Pannel Egboh of Stanford or Jeremy Navarre of Maryland, all of whom could be had in the fifth or sixth round.

Reader Comments

Por (Jim Kinzer) on March 25, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Two years ago, White while playing only part time had more sacks than anyone else on the team.  Gruden replaced him with Adams last year and he was inferior to White.  He kept him there only to justify his #1 pick that so far is a Bust!  The “D” is in very bad shape now, even with the #1 pick for this year as a starter.  Why doesn’t the Glazers or the “Day Dream Team” address the “D” problems?

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Por (Pat) on March 25, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Because they’re in lala land. Everyones asking why the Glazers would waste money to bring Haynesworth here…..????? Plugging up the middle is not a waste of money to me, or I imagine, anyone who watched the Bucs play last year. Lost 4 starters on a defense that wasn’t really all that great to begin with (say what you will, but they haven’t played BIG, in big games for years), retained a liability at corner ( I love you Rhonde, but you should have been cut with the rest), and are now going to ride what ever luxury vehicle $60 million saved can buy, all the way to the first pick of the draft.

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Por (Roland) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Kinzer wrote, “Two years ago, White while playing only part time had more sacks than anyone else on the team.  Gruden replaced him with Adams last year and he was inferior to White”—- Do you even watch the Bucs games Kinzer? White FAILED at LE and oour lovely propersonel’s (Dominick’s mistake maybe) big defensive signing for LE was a total bust (we traded him before camp he was so bad) so Gruden/Kiffen was forced to move Adams to a position his skill set doesn’t fit best so White could be on the field… and fail. Repeatedly. White will be lucky to make the team if he fails at LE this season.

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Por (Roland) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

So Kinzer, Adams was hampered by White’s inability to work hard and learn the position his skill set fits best. Adams worked too hard and became adequate at a position he wasn’t drafted to play and a position he will never have the ideal skill set for. And since our only player at DT to generate consistant heat was NO ONE don’t expect much form DE’s anyway. DTs make DEs IMO. And anyone except the greatest DEs can generate a lot of pressure with out help.—- For proof see all the scrub (okay, boarderline starters) DEs Sapp made filthy rich.

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Roland- all the more reason to have paid Haynesworth whatever it took to get him here. We had the money. He was the premier DT in free agency. Probably one of the 4 or 5 best in the game right now. And your way to high on Adams. I don’t think he’ll ever be valued as a 6th pick in the draft. With the exception of a few plays throughout the season, he is neither disruptive, nor dominating (see Peppers, Taylor, Rice etc.) whether at his natural position or not.. Maybe he steps up, but I don’t think he has it in him. Was probably a 1st round draft pick, just 20 picks later.

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

And Jim, they think they did address the D problems. By resigning Sims (a cast-off first round bust the Chiefs no longer wanted), and by bringing in a LB, who although may be servicable, didn’t play at all last year and is coming off an injury (see Cadillac, Phillips). ????? From what I saw last year, Sims gives me no confidence he can be an every down player, Hovan gets no pressure pass rushing and at times is transparent, and the torch has been passed from our offensive line to the defense in general now. You know the one. Olay!! Olay!! This D is terrible. Don’t let these shysters trick you. This D is going to get beat like a drum.

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Maybe Bates has some tricks up his sleeve. You know…like a defensive version of the Wildcat, or something. That’s the only way this team will win; With smoke and mirrors. No matter how great a magician you are though, if you perform too often, eventually people figure it out. Even though Brooks performance declined in the last couple of years, he was probably STILL the teams best defensive player, and he’s gone. Ruud is ok, but I think Brook’s presence made him better, and I still don’t think he has the wheels to be a dominating MLB in the NFL. That leaves us Jackson, Talib and Piscitelli. Yea. Phillips is not great in coverage, and seems brittle with big hits. Complete rebuild, with an owner that is now frugal.

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

.....Jackson, Talib and Piscitelli are all good players, by the way. Maybe future Pro-bowlers. My point was, there’s just not enough of them.

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Por (Doc Ellis) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Totally agree guys.  I’d like to though get Cutler even if it takes a two ones.  Why?  Because his presence will allow us to sign anyone we want on offense.  Housmansaydeh would have come here if Cutler was here as a FA.  Clearly we would be a FA team for two years, and we could spend the cash on defense.

Now, would we?  Maybe not.  The picks we very good picks.  And our frugalness will pay off ( I wanted AH too) but I think Dominick is a little green.

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Por (angel) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

SIGN JASON TAYLOR!!!!!

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

I agree totally, Angel. There’s absolutely, positively no reason for them NOT to sign Jason Taylor right now, unless they just flat out don’t want to spend the money, or they don’t want to at least make an effort to improve this defense, and soften the blow that we all are going to experience in 5 months. There is NOTHING to lose by signing him. He probably would come fairly cheap (you hear that Joel? There’s a word you understand), we give up nothing, and if he doesn’t work out, so what?? he could improve this D. As a matter of fact, IMO He would be the teams best end. That’s right, I completely believe that.

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Por (H A) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Jason Taylor is older than the coach, he will not be signed. Period the end!

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Por (Pat) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Well, they’re still talking about resigning Carter, and he’s older than the coaches dad. Taylor has a heck of a lot more gas left than Carter, I would think.

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Por (H A) on March 26, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Talking and doing 2 different things. Talked about fat albert, Vilma, too many to mention, talked about lots of players and resigned Can’t Catch Clayton, that still boggles my mind. The could not catch a cold in Siberia barefoot!!! Still need 2 starting Defensive tackles no matter how you slice it.

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Por (Roland) on March 27, 2009 (Suggest removal)

You simply can’t bench Adams on third down to bring in Taylor. Taylor then is a back up for one position and he doesn’t play on special teams… We have Greg White for that.

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Por (Pat) on March 27, 2009 (Suggest removal)

H.A.  lolol It probably would be even funnier if it was sarcasm, but it’s the truth. I have to laugh to keep from cryin’.

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Por (Pat) on March 27, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Roland- no, but in certain situations, when your in man coverage in the nickle package, you could leave Adams in as well, and line him up the same way you would when your blitzing the Sam linebacker… anywhere you want. That would leave your best pass rushers in the game, and Adams might be JUST fast enough to get out into coverage now and then, to break things up (as long as he doesn’t get isolated with a slot receiver or running back). Something similar to how they used Lawrence Taylor. It might even unleash Adams, who you know I don’t think is all that good. Just some thoughts on a slow football day. :>

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Por (Roland) on March 28, 2009 (Suggest removal)

If we ran a 3-4 Adams woulds probably make a nice rush LB but I can’t see doing that much just to make room for a once great, but now average RDE. Taylor would be nice to have around just to teach Adams some of those moves (what a great bag of tricks, leverage/balance/quickness/hand fighting) but other then as a mentor I don’t see Taylor fitting.

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Por (Pat) on March 28, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Well, the way the front office is talking, we may be running the 2-5, with all the “quality” linebackers we have on the roster.  hahaha.. So many, that we didn’t have to be agressive in free agency….LMAO Seriously, why do you think they’re trying to move Phillips to Will?? because he’s faster than the other linebackers, and with that high talent defensive line we have, we are going to be seeing the backs of the jerseys of all our linebackers all year long… in pursuit.  lol They didn’t have to have a blog about jersey numbers. We’re going to know their numbers quite well, by week 4 or 5.  lol

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Por (Michael Rose) on March 29, 2009 (Suggest removal)

BUCS lack of DT in the “Smashmouth South"division spells doom !! Did everyone not see the last 4 games this past season ! I’m going to laugh at the 4-12 campaign in our future.YEARLY BUC expenditures in my family will now become elsewhere !!! LOL

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