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Simms Calls Relationship With Gruden “Broken’’

Posted Jun 9, 2008 by Roy Cummings

Updated Jun 9, 2008 at 07:38 PM

TAMPA – If you’re wondering why Chris Simms has been skipping all the Bucs “voluntary’’ workouts this spring, you may want to pick up a copy of tomorrow’s Tribune or check back here for an update to this blog.

I just got off the phone with Simms, who vented everything he has to vent, which is one way of saying he would have vented his spleen if he still had one to vent. But he doesn’t.

And therein lies the problem. Though he still has tremendous respect and feels great loyalty towards the Bucs owners and even their general manager, Bruce Allen, he can’t say the same for his coach, Jon Gruden.

Simms says he can “never’’ forgive Gruden for the way Gruden treated him last year while he was attempting to come back from his spleen injury and just wants to part ways with his coach.

He doesn’t deny that Gruden has taught him things he never knew or helped him develop as a quarterback, but Gruden treatment over the last year has soured Simms to the point where he just wants out of the Bucs organization.

“And that’s hard for me to say,’’ Simms said. “It kills me to say that because the Bucs have been great to me. The fans there are great. I love being in Tampa; my family loves being in Tampa.

“It’s an awesome sports town, a town that loves football. But the relationship between me and coach Gruden, it’s broken. It just is, and I don’t see any way it’s going to get better again.’’

 

Reader Comments

Por (todd) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Bye Bye Simms !!! Better luck to the next team your with, they are going to need it. Time for him to move on !!

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Por (BigBucFan) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Grow up Chris & be a man. Everybody gets mad at their Boss, or hates him or her, but we still get up at 5AM (Broken Interstate) and go to work. See Chris, we don’t have the luxury of having a rich Daddy, or being paid $5mil to ride the pine. Chris, you weren’t 100%. What did you expect Gruden to do? The Bucs should also Ban the words “Roy Cummings” on their website. We don’t need Simms or Garcia’s bad attitudes. I’d rather lose. It’s general principles. Shut your mouths, please. I hope Derrick Brooks whoops your Butt. Chris, I was hoping to see what you could do in camp but I’d rather see what you can do in Camo, in Iraq. Feel lucky & be a man, punk. If your reading this in English, thank a soldier. For Spanish press EJECT.

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Por (todd) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Well said BigBucFan. You are absolutely correct. I would rather lose also.

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Por (BroEli) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Simms is not unique.  Did you hear Garcia’s interview?  Players who do not like Gruden can’t all be wrong.

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Por (John Klopfer) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I am a big Simms fan. I believe he has some guts (as proven with the spleen injury) and can be an asset to another organization. However, I do not believe that the problem is all one sided. If the Bucs are plannig on getting rid of Simms…do it now. Give the kid a chance.

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Por (Tbuc) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

After all the team, the fans - and Gruden - has done for Simms, these comments really ##### me off.  Even before he got hurt, all he would do is throw game-ending interceptions at the worst possible time.  Then he got hurt and the Bucs kept him around and paid his useless ##### for what seemed like forever. 

The NFL is a small fraternity, and comments like these are going to come back later and hurt Simms the most. His judgment, persona, and comments off the field are like his playing on the field - very immature.

Good riddance!

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Por (Ladyfan) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I am very disppointed in Simms’ comments.
He never showed any consistent promise for out offense.  He got paid $5million to rehab! I second BigBucFans comments.  Grow up kid! 

Its hard to fail at something. Sometimes a fresh start helps and sometimes it just proves that the mediocre performances weren’t just flukes.  Let’s see what ya got somewhere else.  I do wish you luck, tho.

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Por (Ram Rod) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

uh-oh, another QB ready to bolt, who will be next? Josh should start studying that play book

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Por (wade less) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

time to cut bait. i like our chances with garcia, mccown and griese for 2008. granted our long term plans at qb are still questionable (not sure if mccown can be the guy or not), i think we will be fine heading into next season. at least we have 3 capable qbs. simms actually played better than i ever thought he would in the nfl albeit that isn’t a huge statement…i can’t remember how many times i saw him get benched for applewhite in college.

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Por (GK) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

He stands as tall as he does and still couldn’t get the ball over the D-Line!I’m sick of Gruden getting the blame for Simms’ failures.I’ll be honest Gruden is hard and tuff to work for and has a style that probably would be hard to deal with, but I do believe he only wants the BEST.  Let’s face it he never has had a Peyton Manning for all you Dungy Lovers.  Injuries, no cap space, injuries, no cap space, etc.  If we could get some consistent QB play I think the opinion of Gruden would be different.  Look at the all the great QBs and their ability to play 15 16 games a season yr after yr and how they’ve been successful.  Manning, Brady, Romo, Favre, etc.

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Por (Drew) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Sounds like a spoiled rich kid that didn’t get his way. Chris, put up or shut up.

If you’re as good as you think you are, then put it on tape and show your critics their wrong. If you can’t put it on tape, then move your spoiled little @$$ to another team. By the way, if you can’t put it on tape, then Canada is always an option. Just ask Jeff.

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Por (todd) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

RAM,

Josh is studying the playbook. He has been.

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Por (todd) on June 09, 2008 (Suggest removal)

RAM ROD,

How’s Gradkowski working out for the Rams so far ??

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Por (david birch) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

don’t be surprised to see simms end up in chicago…they are actively seeking out a qb with starting experience…the way gruden likes to sign “alchy’s” look for benson to be running drills for the bucs soon…

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Por (BigBucFan) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Is that all you got Roy, Tribune, TBO? Jeremy Stevens’ Past, Garcia Complaints, Simms’ Baby Talk, Grahams’ Complaints. I hope all this crap fires up Chuckie more than ever. Put up or shut up reporters, haters, complainers. The Bucs are gonna kick some butt this year. If it has to be Josh Johnson, roll the dice & let it ride baby! Bring it on! Rams,Saints, Fagcons,Panzies,Cubbies,BrokeBacks,Pack69’rs,All of you NFC. Bring it on! T.O.,Chad, you guys suck too. Let’s fight. Let’s get some Spirit in the stands this year. Roy, your fired!!!

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Por (Paul) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Garcia’s problems are with his contract, not with Gruden.  He would have never come to Tampa if Gruden wasn’t the coach.  People need to understand Gruden doesn’t have anything to do with the contracts.  If he did Griese would have never been cut and McCardell would have gotten a new deal when he wanted it.  However, Bruce Allen has done an excellent job managing the cap.  Coaches coach and GMs manage.  Those agendas are not always the same.

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Por (Stop whining) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

If I gave up my spleen at my job, (which I wouldn’t) and played behind a line as bad as ours when he played, (which none of us did)I would vent too!  Everyone always like to draw the “common man” comparison and bring up their jobs.  Sheer fallacy.  If you had a marketable skill that paid you the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you would take the money in a heartbeat, but you don’t.  So stop whining like you’re accusing Chris of doing.  I’ll bet you don’t lose a spleen during your long commute over bad interstates, huh?

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Por (Michael Harris) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

WHO CARES?  I’ve been polite to Simms so far; but it’s time for him to shut up and just wait to be traded or cut.  The Bucs have been MORE than kind to him.  Since his injury, he’s made over $2 million dollars to stand around and throw wobbly passes.  The FACT is:  he’s not an NFL starter, talent wise.  It’s too bad about his injury.  But he needs to just shut up!

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Por (jason) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Wah! ....I don’t understand what Gruden could have done differently last year when Simms tried to come back.  Simms admitted he wasn’t ready last year!  Gruden kept saying he wasn’t ready, and Simms kept trying to force the issue.  If Chris needs bad news to be sugar coated then maybe he can go play for a team coached by Dr. Phil.  I respect what Simms did in the Carolina game, but that doesn’t mean I have to listen to him whine like a baby for the rest of his time in Tampa.  TAKE A WALK!!

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Por (Mitch R) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This is gratitude, after Simms lost his spleen, the Bucs resigned him to a 2 year $2MM deal.  I’m sure that Gruden had his say to keep him.  Simms obviously couldn’t play last year and I’d like to see where he is currently in his rehab.  Gruden handed him the Starting Job in 2005 and didn’t even bring in any veteran competition in 2006, and yet Simms views him as Joseph Stalin?  Facts are facts, he just hasn’t shown the talent to restore Gruden’s faith in him.  When healthy in 2006, he was absolutely horrible.  He threw too many INTs and the batted balls were ridiculous.  I think it’s time for Simms to move on and give it a go somewhere where he can be successful.

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Por (martha s. burton) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

look at who is on our team. Good Lord wake-up people we are starting to run a place for the lowlife of society. I believe Gruden has no respect for anyone and all he cares about is winning. What a Sad day for Buc fans how does it hurt to be a decent human being & if you look & be honest with yourself you can’t say that Gruden is a decent human but a first class LIAR & JERK. Chris deserves to be treated like a person not a piece of dead meat.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Martha, what are you talking about?  Simms was paid over the past 2 years for sitting on his butt and rehabbing.  We resigned him last year, knowing he wasn’t really going to play.  We resigned Warrick Dunn, one of the classiest individuals in the history of the NFL.  We are giving Antonio Bryant a 3rd chance at success.  We have been especailly good to Derrick Brooks, another classy guy.  Don’t go off on Gruden because Chris Simms is unhappy, this is the NFL and stuff like this happens.  Simms was essentially collecting $2MM last year to do nothing.  If they were truely heartless, they would have cut ties with him last year.

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Por (Matt) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Good..We want you out too.  I’ve never liked Chris, i never even liked his dad…Chris himself has said he’s never one a big game, he never had to do much in H.S. and he never even beat Oklahoma in college..If we can’t trade him, release the guy…Who cares bout him…By the way MARTHA….You don’t know what your talking about…It’s a business…Remember that

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Por (WilliamL) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I agree with you Mutch R. What exactly did Gruden do? Not play him when we had better options. What has Simms ever done to warrant special treatemnt or the benefit of the doubt that he would be the best QB? I like Simms and think he’s a good guy with the potential to be a good QB, but quit whining. You get a nice extension after doing nothing to deserve it and coming off an injury that could have possibly prohibited you from ever playing again. I say we trade him (if we can). Maybe package him to the Dolphins and bring Taylor here.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

William, you are correct.  All Gruden ever did was 1) Draft him, 3) Tutor him for 3 years 2) Hand him the starters job without any competition in 2006, 3) Re-sign him when he wasn’t even able to play, 4) Give him every opportunity to make the team in 2007 and 5) Keep him under contract and possibly look to bring him to camp or trade him.  Wow, that sounds like a good deal to me.  Fact is, Simms has never faced adversity in his entire life and now that things aren’t going the way he wants them, he is crying to Roy Cummings.  GROW UP CHRIS AND FIGHT.  SHOW UP TO CAMP AND PUSH GARCIA.  WIN A JOB FAIR AND SQUARE.  MAKE US SEE YOUR POTENTIAL AND TAKE US TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!  But no, that’s too hard for him.

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