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Quick Update on Carnes
Posted Jan 29, 2010 by Scott Carter
Updated Jan 29, 2010 at 11:27 PM
As soon as I filed my previous update on USF pulling its scholarship offer to Bradenton Manatee QB Brion Carnes, I got a call back from Manatee coach Joe Kinnan.
Kinnan is upset at USF for pulling the offer to Carnes so close to National Signing Day. He did get a call from Bulls coach Skip Holtz on Friday evening to apologize for some apparent miscommunication, but Kinnan said Manatee’s relationship with the program has been altered.
“I’m not real happy with USF,’’ he said. “We’ve got a strained relationship right now. We are as truthful as we can be in the process; you’ve got to be as truthful with us.’‘
Kinnan said that when Carnes visited USF two weeks ago—the first couple of days Holtz was on the job—that there was no mention of USF potentially running out of scholarships and not having one left for Carnes. However, Kinnan said that is how USF explained the situation to Carnes on Friday—that the program simply didn’t have enough scholarships remaining to still offer him one.
Carnes committed to USF months ago but had wavered publicly in that commitment of late, taking a visit to Nebraska last weekend and one to Western Kentucky this weekend.
Kinnan said despite Carnes appearing to be a “soft verbal’’ in recruiting terms, he was telling other programs that USF was where he was going. The good news for Carnes is that he passed up offers to make official visits to schools such as Clemson, West Virginia and Cincinnati to visit USF. So, he will have options—good options.
The bottom line: When a new coach takes over a program in the middle of recruiting season, it’s sort of like that old saying ‘All is fair in love and war.’
USF obviously cooled on Carnes once Holtz took over, and if Carnes was truly as committed to USF privately as Kinnan says, he should have made it very clear publicly as well to avoid the apparent miscommunication between the two sides.
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Por (Dan Alatorre) on January 30, 2010 (Suggest removal)
If “Carnes was truly as committed to USF privately as Kinnan says, he should have made it very clear publicly”
You effed up, coach. Stop blaming everybody else. And Holtz already called to apologize, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
If he’s such a hot property he should have no problem landing at one of those other schools he was flirting with. And next year, tell you kids to commit early and loudly.
C’mon now. Grow up.
Suggest removalPor (Dan Alatorre) on January 30, 2010 (Suggest removal)
If “Carnes was truly as committed to USF privately as Kinnan says, he should have made it very clear publicly”
You effed up, coach. Stop blaming everybody else. And Holtz already called to apologize, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
If he’s such a hot property he should have no problem landing at one of those other schools he was flirting with. And next year, tell you kids to commit early and loudly.
C’mon now. Grow up.
Suggest removalPor (Hector Jimenez) on January 30, 2010 (Suggest removal)
As far as I can tell public schools are open to the PUBLIC….meaning if Holtz and his staff want to visit and speak to a young man they may.
I agree with Dan…coach screwed up and now he is looking for someone to blame. Time heals all wounds and USF will be back there in the future, if they have the talent that Holtz wants.
So far I see Holtz as a guy who can close a deal and recruit outside of FL rather well. CJL recruited FL very well but we needed to go out of the state just like other Big Time programs….nationwide is the way to win!
Suggest removalPor (T Bever) on January 30, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Visits in October are one thing… but visits in January do little to support the notion of commitment to a program - especially when they happen the two weeks leading up to signing day.
Hard to believe that Holtz wouldn’t honor the scholarship if Carnes reaffirmed commitment two weeks ago and cancelled trips out of state.
Suggest removalPor (slick1ru2) on January 30, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Denying access to your players from the only University with both a football program and a satellite campus in Manatee County benefits who? NO ONE! This knee jerk reaction denies future players in the program access to possible scholarships. USF is a state school. If he is going to allow other schools access to players and not a state university, he probably is going to be getting calls from the School Board, especially if pressured by parents, citizens, and alumni of USF living in the Manatee area. He is’t “the most powerful man in the building”. Denying access to players because a soft commit player who is still visiting schools the weekend before signing day gets his scholarship pulled means you are not the smartest either.
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