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Observations From An OTA

Posted May 22, 2008 by Roy Cummings

Updated May 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM

TAMPA - After awhile, football practice tends to get pretty monotonous. It’s hard for a lot of players to get juiced up for it day after day, even when they’re in the middle of the regular season and a pivotal game is looming just around the corner.

You can only imagine then how tough it is for some players to get up for an offseason workout. With their next game still months away players often need something new and fresh to break up the monotony, and Bucs coach Jon Gruden has come up with a pretty good spritzer.

Every year he moves at least one offseason workout to Raymond James Stadium, and that’s where Thursday’s organized team activity (OTA) was held. This one was also open to the media, so for anyone Jonesing for a Bucs fix, here are some nuggets to chew on until next month’s minicamp.

The most interesting note involved defensive linemen Greg White, who took the majority of the first team reps at left defensive end. We’ve been hearing that there was a plan afoot to make White the starter at that spot and Thursday’s workout seemed to confirm that.

While White took the bulk of the reps at left end Gaines Adams worked the right side. Jovan Haye and Chris Hovan worked inside. The rest of the first team defense looked pretty much as expected, with Phillip Buchanon working at left corner and Aqib Talib working second unit right corner.

The only surprises, if you can call them that, were at SLB, where Ryan Nece worked in place of Cato June (foot) and at SS, where Sabby Piscitelli worked in place of Jermaine Phillips, who has missed this week’s workouts while tending to a family matter.

Other notable players who were absent or sitting out included RB Earnest Graham, WR Joey Galloway, WR Ike Hilliard, LT Luke Petitgout and LG Arron Sears. All but Graham, who is sitting out in an effort to spur contract talks, were taking time off to rest up from offseason surgeries or an injury sustained in a previous workout.

With Sears out Dan Buenning took the bulk of the reps at left guard. Donald Penn took the first-team reps at LT and Michael Bennett, Kenneth Darby and undrafted free agent Clifton Smith got the bulk of the looks at RB.

Bennett seemed to get most of the work there, but he also lost a fumble during a rather sloppy set of 11-on-11 drills. There were several bad center-quarterback exchanges during those drills and at least one interception was thrown, that by Brian Griese.

The offense, in fact, struggled mightily to complete its passes. In fact, the defense was so dominant that at one point late in the workout, defensive backs coach Raheem Morris shouted out, “Has anyone seen a completion here?’‘

There were a few, including one by QB Luke McCown on a 45-yard bomb deep into the end zone to wideout hopeful Cortez Hankton. Hankton showed tremendous concentration on the play as CB Darrell Hunter was the first to get a hand on the ball, batting it up in the air. As Hunter hit the ground, though, Hankton grabbed the ball out of midair to make the play.

The play was one of several for McCown, who shared reps at QB with Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese. Bruce Gradkowski didn’t get a single rep during the team drills and it wasn’t until the team was called back onto the field for a few extra plays that rookie Josh Johnson got a throw or two in.

Coach Jon Gruden said later that the lack of work doled out to Gradkowski and Johnson was part of the regular routine in which quarterbacks are given time off to rest up. He said Gradkowski and Johnson will get more reps in later workouts.

On Graham’s absence, Gruden expressed little in the way of concern. Like General Manager Bruce Allen before him he noted that Graham missed a lot of the offseason workouts last year and was confident the situation would work itself out over time.

“I hope to see him soon,’’ Gruden said of Graham. “He’s a key member of our team. In the meantime, we’re very pleased with our addition of Warrick Dunn. Michael Bennett has been outstanding in the offseason. I hope Earnest gets in here soon. He’s a good football player.’‘

Gruden also expressed confidence that Jeff Garcia’s contract problems would eventually be worked out. Like Graham, Garcia is seeking an extension to the contract that expires after this season, and while he has yet to miss a workout, he has hinted that a holdout may be in the offing if a deal cannot be reached soon.

“I’m very confident that it will all work itself out,’’ Gruden said of the Garcia affair. “In the meantime, we’re going to get ready to play. I do know this, he’s a great competitor and a great leader. He did play stellar football for us. He was clutch for us. He’s a critical football player for us and hopefully it all works out.’‘

Reader Comments

Por (todd) on May 25, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy Hill,

Are you going by his “photo” by saying he don’t look smart or are you going by the way he performs on the field? Because I haven’t seen Josh Johnson perform in the NFL yet nor I haven’t seen him perform in the very first couple of OTAs in his rookie season. Are you seeing something I’m not?

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Por (Mitch R) on May 25, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Hey Billy from Fart Meyers, in case you didn’t know, Johnson was running almost the same exact offense that the bucs run at San Diego.  That was part of the draw for Gruden as many of Grudens former assistants coach at San Diego.  So, I think he has a leg up on learning this complex offense.  As for the Defenses (not DEFENCE genius), all college QBs have the same learning curve, some do, some don’t.  Only time will tell for Johnson.

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 25, 2008 (Suggest removal)

All im sayin is this guy does not look like he is gonna be able to pick up the NFL game.  Sorry guys.  I wish this kid could be the next Shaun King or Joey Hamilton but he wont even be that good.  I hear the AFL calling.  I hear the have a less diifucalt sestem to understand there.

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Por (Mitch R) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy, you’re an idiot.  To say that someone wont do something before he’s even had a chance is moronic.  I’m not saying that he will be the starter by 2010, but I’m at least going to see what he has in pre-season over the next couple of years before I make judgement.

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Mitch, lets be real.  Pick number 160 that can’t throw a 20 yard spiral and played division 1-AA.  Your right this kid is going to be the next Bruce Gradkowski.  Hail to the future king Josh Johnson.  Yea!  Go Bucs! Go Bucs.  You can do no wrong.  I’ll never question another draft choice again.

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Por (todd) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Mitch,

Your going to have to excuse Billy, not everybody has football smarts. Look he says he is from Fart Myers, there is no such place. He is somewhere all on his own,leave him alone. The kid is delusional.

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Todd, remove your tongue from Mitch’s bum and you will see more clearly.  Plus, Mitch is a big boy he knows what he said.  He does’nt need you to be his mommy and fight his battles.  And for your info Fart Myers is Fort Myers.  I just choose to call it Fart Myers.  Don’t be hatin!

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Por (todd) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy, Relax man, take it easy go drink another beer and smoke another blunt and come back and give us some more insight on whats happening out of Bucs camp that everybody is not seeing.
It is alot of laughs hearing somebody that is so full of information. Thanks for letting know about Josh Johnson.lol

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Por (Mitch R) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy, ever hear of Tony Romo?  Any idea where he went to school?  Was he even drafted?  What about Jake Delhomme?  How about Jon Kitna? Those guys were undrafted and went to small schools. They’ve had pretty good careers.

How about Matt Hasselback or Tom Brady? Both of those guys were 6th rounders and between those two, they’ve been to 5 super bowls.

The point I’m trying make is give Johnson a chance to succeed before you tout him as a failure.  School and draft position doesn’t always equate to success in the NFL, just ask Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler and Tim Couch.

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Por (Mitch R) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy, you claim to have some proof that Johnson stinks, please pass that along to us, I’d like to see this proof.  Or are you just talking out of your farting #####?

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Por (patrick dotson) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

now kids play nice…lol…just because a kid is drafted late doesnt mean crap…i agree with mitch..there has been alot of players drafted late that have had wonderful careers and some that have sucked…but to call out a guy that hasnt even played one down in the nfl is a little premature…knowing that he has played in a gruden type offense does give him a leg up…not sayin hes goin to come in here and be the savior…but he does deserve a chance before we all start bashing him because he played in a 1aa school…

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Por (patrick dotson) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

another thing…dont see why were worried bout this kid right now anyways…hes not goin to even be ready to start for like two seasons…so give the kid time to develop and see what happens…GO BUCS!

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 26, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I agree with Patrick.  This guy will never be ready to be an NFL QB.  I think the Bucs should run the option with this guy.  Same 10 plays.  i think he would fit that system better.  I saw him throw at the combine and he could’nt hit the broad side of Mitch’s wife’s #####.

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Por (patrick dotson) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

bill..smoke another L…read my comments again…never said he wouldnt be a nfl player…said he wont be ready for 2 yrs…hes already played in a west coast offense…he will need time to adjust to the nfl…and when he does…i believe he will be a great qaurterback here and possibly could be the future of this team…we will never know unless we give him a chance…which looks like “some” people havent given him one yet…GO BUCS!

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Por (Mitch R) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Billy, you are a grade A #####.  Ignorance must run amuck in Fart Meyers, but your ignorance probably makes you the mayor.

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Por (Mitch R) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

and billy, throwing something like 46 tds against 1 int and a 70% completion percentage proves that he is accurate, vs any competition.

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Por (S Shukovsky) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Why I am not surprised that in a scrimage the only QB to make meaningful yardage was Luke McCown?  He consistantly is the most athletic QB Tampa has, with a tendency to make critical errors at key times.  Meanwhile Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese can get the job done, but don’t have his athleticism.

Next season is going to be interesting, especially if both Garcia and Griese get hurt as is quite possible.  We may actually see McCown play again as I don’t see Simms or Gradkowski making it to the regular season on the roster (okay, Simms has an outside shot but barely).

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Por (todd) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

S Shukovsky,

Who knows Josh Johnson might turn out to be the man in a couple seasons. You can’t leave him out of the mix. I really think this kid is going to do well. I believe he is going to be like a Mike Vick type player but only Johnson going to be a better passer. Much smarter then Vick.

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Por (charles fiske) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I just heard that the Brocos signed Pittman

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Por (todd) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Are you serious???

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Por (chauncey mccain) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

the bucs needed to spend some of da cap space money to make da team better what are we holding on to it for. why we can’t spend money like da cowboys are we just playing to play are we playing to win. because it looks like that . B. allen an J. gruden needed to be gone if we don’t win because the free agents we got 3rd teir player not going to help us win.
Bucs fans need to rise up!!!!!

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Por (patrick dotson) on May 27, 2008 (Suggest removal)

last time i checked it took bruce allen 5 yrs to get us out of cap hell…why do we want to go back to that…another thing…“in my opinion” most of the so called playmakers in this years free agency besides a handful werent worth the money they got…only reason why they got the contracts is because half the league had so much cap room…you dont build a solid team from free agency…how much money has synder burned up with the redskins and look what he has…

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 28, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Patrick, I’m so tired of people like YOU saying this Josh Johnson is the next “Vick” because he is black.  I mean come on is this 1947.  Where is Bronco Nagurski.  Why cant this guy contribute and play like Tom Brady?  Nice, real classy.

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Por (Billy Hill) on May 28, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Hi Mitch, sorry I had to take a break to go to work, unlike you.  i appologize about the wife coment.  That was not nice.  I still think that we can be friends in the near future.

Love,
The Billy

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Por (patrick dotson) on May 28, 2008 (Suggest removal)

guess what billy…im tired of people like you that cant f%^&(n read comments right on here…when in all of my comments when have i ever said johnson is compared to vick…none…so why dont you go back to skool and learn how to read before you start running that mouth of yours…

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