Posted by  Chris, Florida on 09/20  at  10:27 PM

Way to stay classy Trampa!! You really should worry about your own back yard instead of other….“people in glass houses…”

Posted by  Brett McMurphy,  on 09/20  at  06:51 AM

Allen, it was not just one person. Grothe even noticed it from the field. Pat Porzelt asked me “to the folks that said “it is just part of the game” I wanted to ask why it has to be.  Why is it acceptable in our sports society to be abusive -  it is not acceptable on our streets, in our schools or in our homes, but a sports arena is OK?  Hopefully more people around the country will stand up and say they aren’t going to take it anymore.  I have a feeling other schools may soon be following USF’s lead.”

Posted by  Allen Brown, Tampa on 09/19  at  11:30 PM

I merely meant that they would not be writing these articles and blog posts if it wasn’t for your article.

I think this same article could be written at most games.  You can find a fan that thinks a bad word is worthy of complaining about.

I had an empty beer can thrown at me at the UCF game, but it missed.  I heard some others faired worse.  However, I never feared for my safety.  I recognize that some people will do things out of line but as long as no one is attacking me, I’m not going to whine and complain about it.  Even then, I’d do it to the police, not the media, because 1 or 2 people shouldn’t make an entire fan base look bad.

Posted by  Brett McMurphy,  on 09/19  at  10:36 PM

Allen, you’re sadly mistaken and 100 percent wrong if you think “I got the Sentinel writers” to write about this. They work for a different newspaper, I have no control over what they write - the same as they have no control over what I write.

Posted by  Allen Brown, Tampa on 09/19  at  08:01 PM

The fact is, every school that has complained in this thread has said worse things to me personally.  I went to UF for a year, I’ve been to FSU games, UCF games, Miami games, UNC and Kansas games (basketball), and all of them have a few a jackasses.

Posted by  Allen Brown, Tampa on 09/19  at  07:46 PM

I would not stop chanting overrated because the PA announcer told me to.  Give me a break.

This whole situation is just one big whine fest.

Brett has gotten Sentinel writers to write about our fans at the Kansas game instead of UCF’s game against Boston College.  This whole situation has been a joke if you ask me.

Just about every game in college football, and most likely any event where that many people gather, there will always be a few people that complain.  If it’s writen about, there will all the sudden be fans of rival programs jumping all over it because they want to tear down the program.

Posted by  Jim Lee, Lakeland on 09/19  at  02:59 PM

As a USF fan I ask you to think about this experience.  It was my pleasure to watch UNC play Ohio State in basketball several years ago, in Chapel Hill.  When the contest was no longer in doubt some of the fans began the chant “over rated” to Ohio State’s basketball team who had been ranked higher in the polls.  Within seconds the PA announder was on the speaker reminding the fans that this would not be tolerated.  He mentioned that OSU were their guests and should be treated with respect.  The chant stopped immediately.  Is it always going to be this way? NO.  But it is an example to be emulated.  You should be able to cheer for your team without bringing disrespect to the university.

Posted by  Harold Wheeler, Tampa on 09/19  at  07:09 AM

USF is only being singled out on this site. It’s not like this is on Sportscenter or CNN news. A KU fan complained and in what I would consider and respectful way.
I would much rather have my teams reputation established on the field as apposed to the stands.
Trust me, I love it when the stadium is packed and loud. And I love getting on the visiting fans who sit in the next section over. But there is never a reason, be abusive, swear, spit or throw drinks or anything else at them.
Just give them some good clean harassment, which most seem to enjoy, and let the players do the rest.
Respect people around you at games and in the rest of your life. Especially kids.

Go Bulls.

Posted by  Isaac Bell, Louisville, Ky on 09/18  at  05:21 PM

JB,

“No other college stadiums sell beer”. Where did you hear that? Beer is sold at UofL games…

Posted by  Bob Richardson, Florida on 09/18  at  03:38 PM

Let’s just face the reality.  Both teams have nothing but trash for fans that don’t know how to win without being a bunch of douche’s.  I bet they can all skin a possum though.

Posted by  JB, Tampa on 09/18  at  01:59 PM

USF has already gained a national reputation for drunk fans who can’t handle their alcohol, and you’ve only been on the stage for a year.  No other college stadiums sell beer, there is problem number 1.  I can understand some smack talk with your conference rivals, but with KU?  Your school has zero football tradition, I guess having horrible fans is better than no tradition at all.

Posted by  Tom Sabol, Tampa on 09/18  at  01:53 PM

Richard Todd: You have a valid point about getting harassed when venturing into another schools territory. I’ve worn my USF stuff in Miami and elsewhere and I expect the taunts. I’ve been the taunter as well, but my point was that what I observed was just nasty and uncalled for. There was a malevolence involved that seemed to approach violence. I’m not sure it’s a non story, I just don’t think anyone should single out USF. I agree that some stories done by the trib are good investigative journalism and others are to stir the pot on a slow week. If I hadn’t witnessed the behavior before and after the game I would not have even commented. Thanks for not trying to rationalize the situation with faulty logic like Mark earlier.

Posted by  Mark S., McDill on 09/18  at  01:26 PM

I am a Pitt fan, I have been to some of the worst enviornments for sports without even leaving my own town.  Of all the college football games I have been to, nothing comes close to the vile I experienced at USF.  Now I hate WVU, but there is some sort of mutual respect between the two schools and I guess that passes on to most of the fans.  Truth is, USF has no respect for anyone.  For some strange reason, USF fans have a sense of entitlement.  Now I went to the Pitt/UCF game at the Citrus Bowl, not sure why the bashing is here for them, they were very polite.  Maybe it was because most of them left in the first quarter, but the only time I have ever felt uncomfortable was at a USF/Pitt game.

It is time to grow up USF fans.

Posted by  Richard Todd, Mimns,Fl on 09/18  at  12:10 PM

To Tom Sabol - My point was that if you wear opponents gear into someones stadium you will hear about it.  I will be at the FIU & NC State games wearing my green and gold and I fully expect to be taunted and yelled at - just part of the deal.  I got theatened when I went to the UCF game but I just laughed it off.  Now when it comes to the idiots- they are at every game- that curse/get in someones face and throw beer they need help but I would hardly condem a whole school because of them.

To Scott- Valrico: You hit the nail on the head - more negative jouralism and really a non-story.

Posted by  Steve O'Neal, Valrico,Fl on 09/18  at  09:43 AM

Hey Mark, I guess the Bulls don’t want kids at games. I guess the Jr Bulls club doesn’t really exist. 99% of the fans at the game, from both teams are decent people and act accordingly. I guess you have administered field sobriety or breathalizer tests on patrons leaving the game to back up your GUARANTEE that 1/2 are drunk. Your analogies are amusing at the very least. Hey murders happen, banks get robbed, crimes are committed every day so everyone should stay inside their homes and not complain or try to do anything about it. By the way, I try to refrain from taking my kids to night clubs. As far as being a fool, keep on posting your ridiculous comments(which is your right), and see who looks like the fool.

Posted by  Scott Hunter, Tampa on 09/18  at  09:35 AM

The “they do it at other schools” excuse does not cut it. The problem is that no one wants to get involved. The cops and ushers can’t take care of everything. We all see this stuff happening but don’t do anythng about it. Speak up b/c odds are the good people around you are disgusted also. Power in numbers. I’m not advocating violence but rather a common voice sending a message that this type of behavior isn’t tolerated. Its an abilene paradox, everyone knows what to do but doesn’t act so nothing gets done. In the end we’re stuck looking like our friends from Orlando.

Posted by  Michael Awbrey, LaBelle, Florida on 09/18  at  09:24 AM

As long as the students are allowed to drink in the parking lots before the games, and even during the games through the concession stand, the “Respectabull” program will not work.  But will they prohibit the selling of alcohol during the game?  No, because all they want to do is make money, and the beer is their money maker.  To solve this problem, 1. Enforce a strict alcohol prohibited parking lots 2. Prohibit anyone that looks to be past the point of intoxicated into the stadium and 3. Stop selling beer during the games!  Even my friends when they start to drink, get angry and are not themselves, and I’ve seen several cases of a USF fan being aggressive towards the visiting team and they were completely trashed!

Posted by  Mark, Lutz on 09/18  at  09:00 AM

Says the 4th best team in the Big East

Posted by  John Swan, Morgantown on 09/18  at  08:33 AM

Typical Bulls fans!

Posted by  Shawn Withrow, Pennsylvania on 09/18  at  08:02 AM

To be very clear: There is never justification for any fan of any team at any time to get in the face of other people entering or leaving a stadium and cuss them out without any provocation. That is just terrible. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen all over the country, I’m just saying it shouldn’t. Fans of other teams are still human beings and deserve respect and a chance to enjoy the game without feeling unsafe or harassed.

Posted by  Rachel, Tampa, FL on 09/18  at  07:58 AM

I’m a female Bull fan and no one asked me how I was treated at our home game against Knasas. Remember how they were beating us by halftime? Yeah, you should’ve heard the things that were said to me by Kansas fans - in our own stadium! Of course, this is bad news for Bulls’ fans…. by why not get all sides of the story? Every football game, both collegiate and pro, have these type of instances. Unfortunately, it goes along with the game. Must have been a slow news day for a story like this to get published - because it happens everywhere.

Get every side of the story before you publish it.

GO BULLS!

Posted by  Rich, Tampa on 09/18  at  07:14 AM

One incident is one to many but we need to keep this in perspective.  There were 9 arrests at this emotionally charged game between 2 ranked opponents. There were 50 arrests at UF v UM and 22 arrests at ND v UM.

We need to police things better and those that don’t abide by the rules need to be tosssed and trespassed for the year. No more games.

KU fans aren’t used to traveling to an OOC ranked opponent as a top 15 team themselves. I think they may have been caught off guard as this was a pretty big game for both programs. If neither of us were ranked and nothing was on the line, I’m sure they would have been treated differently. By the way, I didn’t see anything at all before, during or after the game.

Posted by  CPA BULL, Tampa, FL on 09/18  at  06:53 AM

Enough of the whining from all of the Kansas Jayhawk fans. What a bunch of sore losers!

Brett your a hack! What don’t you write about something positive or interesting. That is why I read the St. Pete Times. Greg A does a much better job than you.

Posted by  Scott, Valrico on 09/18  at  12:52 AM

I highly doubt that you would have had any source material from those poor, abused Kansas fans if they would have won.  Their, “worst experience I’ve ever had”, would suddenly have been the best game they’ve ever seen.  Thanks for the non-story.

Posted by  Trevor McKee, Tampa on 09/17  at  11:47 PM

This is absolutely ridiculous that USF is the only ones receiving bad feedback for actions such as this. For one, it’s a football game, trashtalking happens, and you’re ignorant if you don’t accept that fact. If you were to go to a Florida-Florida State game or an OSU-Michigan game, the same events would occur. It’s pathetic in my mind that this school would get singled out over common daily occurrences.