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Joyer’s dad claims USF tried to keep his son from UL


Jack Joyer, the father of Wesley Chapel offensive lineman Kamran Joyer, told a Louisville Web site today that the University of South Florida “didn’t want him to go Louisville” and suggested USF questioned his son’s transcripts so he wouldn’t attend Louisville or Rutgers.

There’s only one problem with Joyer’s statements: They’re wrong.

USF’s director of undergraduate admissions Robert Spatig questioned the nine grade changes during Kamran Joyer’s senior year in letters last month to Pasco school Superintendent Heather Fiorentino and Wesley Chapel High School Principal Andrew Frelick.

The first letter was sent June 23 to Frelick. A second letter was sent June 26 to Fiorentino. They were both obtained by The Tampa Tribune in a public records request.

Spatig wanted to verify that Joyer “received no special consideration as an athlete either to secure final qualifier status with the NCAA or gain admission as a freshman to USF.”

Three days after Spatig’s second letter to Pasco County school officials, Jack Joyer told The Tampa Tribune his son had asked for and received his release from USF because the school could not guarantee his son would be admitted into USF even if he attended a junior college in the summer.

When USF twice asked Pasco County officials in June to verify the accuracy of Joyer’s transcript, it was with the intent of clearing Joyer so that he could be admitted into USF.

“South Florida just didn’t want him to go to Louisville,” Jack Joyer told InsideTheVille.com today. “Right before summer school they said his transcript was different from another transcript they had so they questioned it and sent it to the NCAA. The NCAA looked at it and pulled his eligibility back until they examined it. So they checked it all out and cleared him again. So USF threw that in the papers to scare off Rutgers or Louisville.”

As for Joyer’s claim about scaring off Rutgers, that’s also inaccurate, said a Rutgers official.

Joyer said last week if his son didn’t sign with Louisville, he would visit Rutgers, where his father said his son had also received a scholarship offer. However, Rutgers officials said last week that Joyer had never been offered a scholarship by the school and were “stunned” to read claims by Joyer’s father in the Tribune to the contrary.

Joyer signed with Louisville on Friday, a Louisville spokesman said, but the school would not confirm whether Joyer had been officially accepted into the university.

Jack Joyer, though, still claims the whole situation “was just sour grapes by USF.”

“He’s all cleared by the NCAA and Louisville checked out all of his transcripts,” Jack Joyer told InsideTheVille.com. “So it was just sour grapes by USF. He’s also going to shot put and get his master’s degree. He plans to be a principal when he graduates.”

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Posted by  Terry_Lucas,  on 07/21  at  05:02 PM

Whether Ben cheated or not while at USF, he still had to physically be present for exams that he was taking in his classes over the four years (you can’t take four years worth of college online and play football).

Although, I personally believe it’s only a matter of time until the University of Phoenix gets their athletic programs rolling (and when they do, it will be the downfall of recruiting for all Florida State athletics).

If Joyer did not have the ability to play football, would he be on anyone’s college radar? Let’s hope for society’s sake, he either becomes a great player that makes it to the NFL and thrives at the next level, or he buckles down and takes school serious.


Posted by  Brett McMurphy,  on 07/21  at  04:58 PM

Allknowing, yeah that is ironic. But as far as Joyer, USF questioned his grades while he was being considered for admission to USF. They asked Pasco County school officials for the info and it’s taken them four weeks to respond. Just because Joyer decided not to wait on USF, USF still wanted to make sure the grade changing didn’t involve other Wesley Chapel High students that were not athletes.


Posted by  Allknowing,  on 07/21  at  03:02 PM

The irony is amazing.  USF is questioning and rightfully so, grades from Pasco County.  They question grades from someone who is not even a student at USF yet when USF’s starting LB’s wife was busted for cheating for her husband using Pasco County computers, it was USF that did not even want to look into four years worth of possible cheating. 

Now that is irony.


Posted by  bentlebee,  on 07/21  at  09:14 AM

Wow…This family should know better. Mom is the assistent principal at Thomas E. Weightman Middle School and a very respected woman who has a singing carreer on the side…maybe there wasn’t time to make sure her son took the SAT on time so he could score higher than 870 on the SAT!

I’m surprised that he has be cleared, if true, at another school…are their standards so low?

I wish them all the luck in the world, but they should stay honest and give a good example!


Posted by  Dan Alatorre,  on 07/21  at  08:37 AM

Well, the one thing we DO know right now is that the father has lied twice. It has been proven that he lied about USF and he also lied about Rutgers. Now, if I have two partied with a dispute, I am going to give a lot more credibility to the party that has not already been proven to have lied twice in the matter. I think it’s time for dad to shut up; he’s not helping anybody. This all sounds like a smoke screen to keep reporters from looking into how all those grade changes got done. We still don’t have an answer to that, do we? Did his dad or anybody else explain that yet?


Posted by  Terry_Lucas,  on 07/20  at  12:40 PM

Maybe mom and dad should have spent more time at home with their son working on his academics instead of throwing USF under the bus when their appears to be multiple transgressions with his transcripts. How is the mom a principal of a school, yet the kid is as smart as a box of rocks? Wouldn’t you at least care about your own child’s education first? I love how a kid who can barely read and write based on his scores wants to become a teacher. I’d feel more comfortable with Dexter Manley trying to become a school adminstrator than Kamran Joyer in the future. Maybe getting his name dragged through the newspapers will make the kid grow up and take advantage of the education The ‘Ville is offering to him.


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