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Jets outflank Bucs for Favre’s services

Posted Aug 7, 2008 by Ira Kaufman

Updated Aug 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM

While some Buc fans may be thrilled that Tampa Bay failed to land Brett Favre on Wednesday, the franchise suffered a major blow in prestige when the Green Bay icon was instead traded to the Jets.

In effect, the Bucs just suffered their first loss of 2008.

Tampa Bay officials went to bed Tuesday night believing the Bucs were in prime position to satisfy Green Bay’s compensation demands and introduce Favre to the Bay area by the end of the week. Once Favre backed off his original demands of playing for either the Packers or the Vikings, Tampa Bay figured it held most of the significant cards in a potential high-stakes game vs. the Jets.

The Bucs won the NFC South last season while the Jets were awful in the AFC East, where New England has ruled during Tom Brady’s long run. Tampa Bay plays in the weaker NFC and the Buc defense is far superior to New York’s, theoretically giving Favre a better chance to play in the Super Bowl if he chose pewter.

The Bucs had more space under the cap than the Jets and could more easily afford Favre’s exorbitant salary. Tampa Bay’s West Coast offense appeared to be a better fit for Favre than New York’s attack, while Favre’s relationship with Jon Gruden was also considered an advantage for the Bucs.

But all those playing chips weren’t enough late Wednesday evening as Favre spurned the Bucs in favor of an AFC lightweight.

The decision was particularly galling for the Glazers, who have a history of getting what they want. Tampa Bay’s owners had proved their determination in the past by successfully going after the Buc franchise, securing Gruden’s services in 2002 and purchasing Manchester United, the world’s most popular soccer club.

In failing to land Favre, the Bucs must now regroup behind wounded leader Jeff Garcia, whose confidence has been eroded by Tampa Bay’s efforts to replace him as the franchise’s starting quarterback. And don’t forget, Garcia is still disgruntled about his contract situation, even while he recovers from a calf strain suffered a week ago.

With the regular season only a month away, the Bucs have to be concerned that their failed pursuit of Favre will have a lasting effect on the man entrusted to run Gruden’s offense.

Tampa Bay will undoubtedly say the franchise is anxious to turn the page, but the failure to consummate a deal with Favre could have lasting repercussions.

Reader Comments

Por (Steve) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

So ... seriously, why should we even read what you clowns have to say from now on? Whatever you report on this blog or for the rest of the season for that matter might be made up sensational b.s., too.

Way to go, Ira and Roy. You’ve embarrassed the Bay area with that report that had every national (respectable) media outlet questioning your lies.

But, in print journalism, there is no accountability. There should at least be a blog post explaining what led you people to run with the story that Favre would be traded to the Bucs. But, there won’t be. You’ll be running more negative stories and lies.

It’s like the boy who cried wolf. No wonder you paper is going under. No one can believe you now.

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Por (Ben) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This is absolutely disgusting. Number one management should not have played this game unless they were positive they were going to land him.  A second rounder was well worth it.  Why we need another Dexter Jackson who can almost beat Spurlock out from running back kicks?  This has been horribly played from the start and has absolutely shattered team chemistry and confidence. Hard for Jeff to go out and leave it all if he has no respect from the idiots who run this team.

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Por (kenny spindola) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

why is this a major blow to the Bucs? Glad he is not here. Time to move on.

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Por (David) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I think this was the best thing that could have happened to the bucs. We already have a starting QB (Garcia) which i think is good enough to give us another NFC SOUTH title, and maybe get lucky in the playoffs. Garcia leaves everything on the field and already knows the offense… If the trade would have happened by the begining of camp i would have agreed with bringing Favre, but there’s no way Brett can learn the offense and be in the same page with Galloway by the start of the season… That’s what i think… this was the best for the bucs

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Por (mike hafford) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

i agree steve but you can blame allen he is a moron! they had him jets got him for a fourth round pick hello! idiots!!!!!!!!!!!

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Por (Phil Attio) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I am absolutely beside myself that our hero, Jeff Garcia, will remain the Number one Qback for the Bucs. With few role models in the Gay/Lesbian/Transgendered Community, I shake my pom-poms enthusiastically for Jeffrey!!!

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Por (mike hafford) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

garcia will not be the same now and he will get hurt again! this was the biggest screw up from the bucs yet!favre wanted to come to tampa!stupid jerks i cannot understand this #### go pats! and i have been a bucs fan since 1980 a fourth round pick! hello mcfly!!!!!!!!!

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Por (randy) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Is it too late for the Bucs to get Jason Bay?

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Por (Mark) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I agree with Ira here… The Bucs have been taking on publicity with this whole thing. If anything, you need to complete the trade for Favre to save face.  They didn’t do it!  Second, Now who’s the QB here?  Are you going to say JG#7 who’s hurt right now, mentally and physically. Lastly, If the Bucs were reportedly only offering a 7th round pick escalating to possibly a 4th…Allen is a MORON. The Jets said from the beginning the would offer no more than a 3rd.  Which looks like that minimal offer beats us. Pack up the camera crews, and people think the circus is gone now… It’s just beginning

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Por (Mark) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

As a lifelong Bucs fan I am disgusted by Allen and Bucs management in their failure to land Favre, for basically nothing. Now the team is stuck with Garcia(good, but never good enough to get to the top), Griese?(he is horrible, can’t believe they brought this stiff back),Simms? (not in Gruden’s lifetime) Johnson? (Grudens
boy crush)McNown?(yea, right).
Farve would have made it fun, but now who knows, but winning cures everything.
Go Bucs!

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Por (Jason) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I think the media and fans made out the Bucs’ interest to be more than it really was.

Mark in Orlando.. what do you mean for nothing?  A first day draft pick is a lot more than nothing for someone who might play one or two more years… and at least spell McCown’s name right so you appear to have SOME sense of what you’re talking about.

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Por (Roland C. Woltman) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I agree have to agree with Chaz when he says, “im suck of it.” I too am suck of it. And it sicks so bad that Garcia is hurt flat. He is so hurt flat, that McNabb will be not the back up bye the bi week we have oft. We should should have gotten Farve cause he is never been hurt flat and then we wouldn’t be suck of it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH—this is ficking awful!!!!

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Por (David Cater) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Well… I was never quite sure of Bruce Allen as a General Manager, Under Allen, this team has remained consistently inconsistent.
Favre was obviously a “Nice to Have” not a “Must Have”.
If they truly wanted to acquire Brett Favre, It was Bruce Allen’s job to get him. If it was some ingenious master plan to get Jeff Garcia to stop “open air contract negotiations” and shut up and lead this team I apologize, but only time (five months from now) will tell the story.
If that happens…Give Jeff some of the money you saved on Favre!

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Por (BigBucFan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

The trade is done but don’t be surprised if Favre decides tomorrow that he doesn’t want to play for the Jets. He may fly there, get to camp & have second thoughts. His wife, after 17 years of Greenbay may say “Brett I don’t like it here.” Then what? She wears the pants at this point, & if she isn’t happy he won’t be committed. The same scenario could happen in Tampa too. It may just be a losing situation for all parties. This is not over yet. They both want to live in Greenbay, in their house, in their perfect little world. Mark my words, this ain’t over, but at least it is for the Bucs. Favre ends up back in Greenbay. Some how some way. The End

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Por (Tom) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I agree with Steve 12:54.

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Por (Dennis) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Another blunder by this franchise. Personally i’m kind of glad we didn’t get him, but on the other hand if you’re go this far with it you need to seal the deal. This franchise has been messing up left and right since the Super Bowl and honestly ever since the Glazers bought Manchester U and Malcom had his stroke this team has been in disaray. I hate to say it, But this is the beginning of the end of Gruden. He went and pissed off the guy that wanted to play for him and a losing season will all but ensure Gruden’s departure. And as much as I respect Malcom for what he did for the Bucs, his kids have made a mess of things and maybe it’s time for a change….Cause honestly i’m tired of the Bucs looking like fools.

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Por (BigBucFan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

There are much worst things in the world than not getting Favre, or Garcia being upset, or Simms whining, or the Tribune getting it wrong. So what people. Nobody owes you anything, least of all an explanation. grow up already & get over it.  The Bucs are no worse for the wear. Garcia needs to be a PRO and do his job, prove he can win & do a better job than that NOT SO STELLAR PERFORMANCE he had against the GIANTS. If you think you got it so bad, move to IRAQ. Allen is an excellent GM & he didn’t give up the Farm. The Glazers do a great job too & if they are all too much for you to take…Move to Greenbay & live next to the Favres. The Bucs are Winners again.

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Por (Seth C) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Everyone here needs to take a deep, calming breath. Favre spurned nobody. He isn’t the GM of the Packers. He just wanted out, the Packers wanted the best value. The Jets were willing to go higher (too high, really).

Those saying Garcia can’t win it all must have really short memories. It wasn’t long ago that three straight Super Bowls were won by teams with mediocre QBs: Trent Dilfer, a nobody 6th round pick with no arm strength, and Brad Johnson. Garcia is better than any of those three were at the time (though, of course, Brady has developed remarkably).

Remain calm, the sky is not falling, and the sun WILL rise tomorrow. The Bucs are still one of the deepest teams in football, and contenders, even without a “Wow!” player.

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Por (Scott Scarboro) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I’m proud of the way Bruce allen handled this situation - don’t get me wrong, it would have been nice to see Favre in pewter but lets face it… The Jets will get a year or 2 out of him before he calls it quits and anything short of participating in a SuperBowl will make that 12 million salary and the likely 2nd or 3rd round pick(based on games played) a hard pill to swallow.

Allen put an offer on the table knowing the Pack had to get rid of him - it was more of a ... we’ll take him if you don’t want him kind of offer. NOT a WE GOT TO HAVE FAVRE offer. We move on, I’m glad it’s over and GO BUCS!!!

Now, all you Favre freaks can get NFL Sunday ticket so you can watch the Jets go 7-9 at best.

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Por (BigBucFan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This whole thing, if nothing else was entertaining. It was a reason to be excited, whether you were for it or against it. The Bucs got more National Press Coverage in the last 2 weeks than they have had in the last 5 years. Jon was wise to keep his mouth shut. Jeff Garcia needs to grow up & be a man, set the example for his family, for his team, for this city. The Bucs owe Garcia nothing. No one in the Bucs office said anything against him. Jeff just assumed the worse. They never said Favre would be handed the starting job. They never said ANYTHING period. Pretty smart when it comes to damage control. Everyone’s comments were based on Assumptions. The Bucs come out smelling like a rose. You know they like QB’s.

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Por (Dan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Just another example on how Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden have turned the Bucs into the Raiders of the East.  Division champs last year against High School competition.  Bucs needed Favre for MANY reasons, one of which is making other players better.  Favre did it last year with Ryan Grant (who?) and Greg Jennings (huh?).  He would have put a charge into our team but instead it will be the same, run it in to the line 2X, short pass, punt for the first quarter, get behind and let’s hope for the best.  I hope Garcia can stay healthy and get better as his Buc career moves on, oh wait he is already limping from a calf injury…

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Por (Dan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

As for the Tribune, this is just plain idiocy.  I awoke yesterday for work at 3:30AM and the word that was being used on the radio was imminent.  Do they have any tips on lottery numbers?  What about the upcoming election, this just in, Carter wins in 2008, oh he’s not in, sorry!  You need to get competent reporters, not hopeful amatuer guessers.

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Por (Roc) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

In - Posted by Roland C. Woltman, Plant City on 08/07 at 02:18 AM - substitute “injury prone” for “hurt flat”, and “McNown” for that other Irish QBs name, and I think Roland and Chaz may have gotten some “I"s and “U"s mixed up. Some of you may have missed just how funny that post was… Or just don’t appreciate good “suck it” jokes.
That is all.

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Por (Dave) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Not getting Favre was the best thing that could have happened for this team. He only has 1-2 years left to play at this level. It would take him until year #2 to digest the plays in Gruden’s book.  Where is the benefit?  We need to win this year! Take a deep breath, people.  We just saved a pile of cash. Now…let’s get back to work.  Oh…just get it over with and pay Garcia that million bucks he was short-changed last year.  Right is right and that guy is getting jerked around. It would serve the team right if he didn’t feel like giving his all this year. I hope Garcia has so much fire in his belly that he shows everyone he’s the real deal.  That’d be the best ‘screw you’ he could deliver to the bucs’ management.

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Por (ira noble) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I really don’t understand why is everbody is so upset we didn’t get favre.Allen&Gruden have done a great job of not overpaying for aging guys since the charlie garner days.Brett is 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games.

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