Posted by  Vinny, West Palm Beach on 08/08  at  06:59 PM

Nick,
Don’t knock Josh Johnson for a 4th. That was one hell of a pick by Bruce Allen and may be the steal of the draft. Check it out at;

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/jets-outflank-bucs-for-fa
vres-services/P50/

Posted by  Mike Bryant, Dunedin Fl on 08/08  at  04:31 PM

Unbelievable how Ira K. has over-sensationalized this story the whole way and is now trying to say our “failed bid” to get Farve will have all these lasting repercussions.  Total BS on all fronts.  Quit it Ira and shame on you for pumping this story into a big frenzy when there was very little to it in the 1st place. Brett coming here would have been cool and The Bucs did try, but we never had a chance being in the NFC with GB on our schedule this year. It is disgusting that Ira and others at the Tribune were fueling the “Bretts coming to the Bucs” fire so heavily without any real evidence to back it up other than speculation, hearsay,  and a desire to pump up their overinflated journalistic egos.

Posted by  BigBucFan, Sarasota on 08/08  at  03:33 PM

This is a good site for intelligent discussions of Buc Fans. It is surprising just how much info you can get here on stats, both past & present. The problem is, this site has been infected with a virus. The root of the virus is HKEY Trib/Sprts/Writr/Crap_#####/Cough/Fenelidiot. This virus has now spawned another Worm known as: ignorant/bashing/uneducated/moron/dontknowshiitt. Norton the memory hog has no cure yet. McAfee is working on it, but the cure porbably will not be available until December when the BUCS win the NFC south again & head into the Playoffs. If not by then, maybe early February.

Posted by  Brian, Plant City, FL on 08/08  at  02:30 PM

Mitch and Shawn, get a Life! Nick use spell Check…

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  02:22 PM

Shawn, I hear you.  You are I are usually on the same page and I look forward to your views on alot of these subjects.  I view this blog as a method of collaboration between serious fans, not people who just live in Tampa and consider that the end all in being a Bucs fan.  Frankly I’m sick of hearing from many of these people due to their knee jerk reactions to simple statements.  Perhaps we should take our discussions off line and let the monkeys play in their own sh|t.

Posted by  Shawn Golan, Los Angeles, CA on 08/08  at  02:06 PM

Mitch, don’t waste your breath.  Notice how this moron doesn’t actually address any questions, he just tosses insults.  for him, the fact that we’re not in Tampa means that we can’t be real fans.  Clearly, he’s near-retarded…so I’m not sure any cogent argument is going to help matters much.

Nick, guys like you give teams’ fans a bad name.  You clearly don’t know anything about the game of football…that’s a given.  But, I was at least hoping you could be a decent human being…clearly, I was wrong.

Go ply your stupidity somewhere else…this place is for intelligent, football discussion.

Posted by  cd, usf alumni in marinelli city on 08/08  at  01:44 PM

Packers leverage as much as they could out the Favre deal and got the JETS to cough up the pick. Packers never wanted to face Favre in the regular season. BUCS would have been his choice and the best fit but other factors controlled this deal. B Allen wasn’t about to redo the Dallas Herchel Walker trade again. GOOD! Packers never wanted the BUCS deal. Favre would have made an impact. How much is questionable. I was at the playoff game year and noticed that without Galloway there was no one to throw to…why?...because we have average receivers….average….if they don’t step up this year things will be the same. Favre would not have made a difference. GO BUCS!!!

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  01:08 PM

Nick, how do you figure that TB lost out on millions?  Ads? Hotels? Jobs?  all that because Favre was traded to the Jets rather than TB?  Last I checked we were a playoff team last year and return everyone (of importance) and have added to key positions.  We easily could have been an 11 win team last year (had we not tanked the last few weeks due to resting starters), so 11 wins this year, with this schedule is not out of the realm of possibility.  Winning = Ads, marketing $‘s and #####‘s in the seats, not trading for one specific player.

Posted by  Nick, My foot wussie @$$ on 08/08  at  12:59 PM

Tampa Bay lost out Million$, Ads, hotels, touri$t, merchandize, jobs and workers. And I have to play last word with somebody who no longer supports the community. A critic who has moved to NYC,LA. Who doesn’t understand what it means to go a Game, High School, College and Pros.  Who thinks of only Mons when talking about Tampa.  Your scum stay in NYC,LA.  Thanks Mitch & Shawn you guys (or Girls) are the Greatest! Greatest Wussies!

Fire Allen, Garcia, trade Griese!

Posted by  Shawn Golan, Los Angeles, CA on 08/08  at  12:47 PM

Nick, you make yourself sound dumber every time your fingers hit the keyboard.  May I suggest stopping that practice in an effort to save what little face you have left…maybe?

As for knowing the game of football, I played and coached at the high school level.  I also walked on at UCLA in the summer of 1996 and 1997 - didn’t make the team, but I did graduate from there…which is clearly not something you can claim [UCLA or any other school]. 

So…tell us about your credentials, putz!

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  12:19 PM

Oh and, I did play ball, maybe not college ball, but football none-the-less.

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  12:18 PM

Nick, Nick, Nick, when are you going to learn?  Don’t claim that I am a wussy (not wussie moron) if you’ve never met me.  I can claim you are an idiot because the comments you make are absolutely moronic and juvenile.  Do me a favor, take some adult education courses, master the English language and then start to post intelligent comments.  Until then, have fun hanging out in Ybor City and catching beads at Gasparilla.  But do me a favor, don’t spend all of your money at Mons, because you’re going to need it for continuing education.

Posted by  Nick, My foot wussie @$$ on 08/08  at  12:12 PM

Mitch, Mitch, Mitch you should replace Ira & Roy.  Your just as big a weanie as they’re, if not bigger. Thanks for correcting on Hines, so you never played ball.  Good luck on your blogging job, tell your dad I’m sorry he had to raise such a wussie!

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  11:54 AM

Nick, it’s clear to me that you did not even go to high school or college because you don’t know the difference between: your - meaning possessive, as in, “your car” and you’re - a contraction of you and are, as in, “you’re a moron”.  And I believe you mean Himes Ave, not Hines Ave, idiot.  I lived in Tampa for over 10 years and have been to my share of games.  But that’s besides the point, being a Bucs fan does not mean I have to live in Tampa or physically go to games.  I watch EVERY game and intelligently read up on games.  I don’t just claim to be a fan and casually watch.  Don’t be a moron.

Posted by  Nick, Himes & Douglas on 08/08  at  11:36 AM

Mitch & Shawn, Your both Punks. How many Bucs games did you go to last year? Did you play College Ball? High School? Do you have any Friends on The Bucs? Any real insight At All? I thougt Not. Do you know where Himes & Douglas is? You should spew thoughts there on game,PUNKS!

Posted by  Greg, Bradenton on 08/08  at  09:21 AM

The Last Word on Brett Favre: Packers did not want to trade him to an NFC team. Bucs really had no chance to trade for him. Bucs would have beat the Jets offer if they had a chance. Now, lets get behand Jeff Garcia and get this season moving in the right direction. Offer Jeff a nice reward for meeting statistical and team benchmarks for this season. Give him the incentive to play his butt off for Tampa.

Posted by  Shawn Golan, Los Angeles, CA on 08/08  at  09:10 AM

Look, everyone understands that Favre didn’t just come back for the hell of it.  Yeah, he wanted to play, but he would have preferred to play for something more than a one-and-done in the playoffs [which is what he’s going to get w/ the Jets - if even that].  Other than the vikings, Favre’s best choice would have been here in Tampa - we’re a team that’s close to being VERY good [plus the SB is here].

In the end, he had little say…that’s why he ended up in NY.  Yeah, he’ll say that that’s where he wanted to be, but everyone knows that’s not true.  It’s just a shame that he won’t have a shot at making one more run.

Posted by  DAMIEN C., PARADISE, CA. on 08/08  at  08:30 AM

BRETT FAVRE DIDNT SPURN THE BUCCS, HE HAD NO CHOICE IN WHERE HE ENDED UP VIA TRADE. IT WAS ENTIRELY UP TO TED THOMPSON WHERE FAVRE WENT. IF YOU COULD GET AN HONEST ANSWER OUT OF FAVRE OFF THE RECORD I WOULD BET HE WOULD SAY HE WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE ENDED UP IN TAMPA IF HE COULDN’T GO TO THE VIKES.

Posted by  Mitch R, NYC on 08/08  at  08:11 AM

Nick, what a great comeback, I like to be brought back to 6th grade.  By the way, is that the last grade you completed in you ‘so called’ education?  I love the mother comments, so unique.  I probably know more about football, stats, players, offense, defense, you name it, than you will ever know.  I watch and learn, not watch and react, unlike the majority of fans out here.  Do yourself a favor and take some remedial english and math courses, perhaps get your GED and then come talk to me.

Posted by  Shitch Mawn Rolon, NYC_ LA or ???? on 08/08  at  07:25 AM

Sorry everybody has to read the comments of losers like Shawn and Mitch. Who only know stats and don’t have season tickets to watch Garcia throw and talk like a little Girl.
The Fact is he has a weak arm and defenses can stack the box with him in at Qb. You’ll see Luke and Chris make defenses play on their toes. Sims is twice the man Garcia is… even without a spleen.  Garcia won’t last1

Posted by  Skylar Zalamut, Tampa, FL on 08/08  at  01:50 AM

What all of you morons fail to realize is that it was the Packers that didn’t want to trade to the Bucs; not the other way around.

Posted by  Shawn Golan, Los Angeles, CA on 08/07  at  10:34 PM

No Nick…you’re the moron.  Mitch is one of the few people that actually knows what he’s talking about.  Unlike some people [you] who just come her to sound stupid [you], Mitch gets this game and has an intelligent opinion [not you]. 

So shut your pie hole before you make yourself sound even more ignorant that you already are.

Posted by  Nick, oviedo on 08/07  at  10:26 PM

Mitch R, NYC is a moron. He’s more then likely a Jets fan.  Go blog a NY sports blog carpet bagger. I guess Mitch is thinking Garcia is do a superbowl…let a lone afew playoff victories. Maybe TBO can hire Mitch to be Ira’s Bicth? they can call it “Clueless & Shoeless” Ha Mitch tell your mom I said “Hi” and I’ve got some pictures of her Daughter-in-law Naked!

Posted by  cd, usf alumn - lions den on 08/07  at  06:58 PM

JETs will stink up GIANTS stadium this year no matter what…poor Brett…enjoy NYC…no Allen has to play damage control for Garcia…did you guys really think it was a done deal because TBO alluded whatever…come on ...Allen please get the marquee WR for all those QBs to throw to…not average…GO BUCS!!!

Posted by  A. Jackson, Tampa Fl on 08/07  at  06:55 PM

For heaven sake Ira! The Bucs have lost “prestige” by not making the trade?? You media guys can be so confusing sometimes. I’m sure if the Bucs had made the trade that the Jets did. We would be hearing today about how the Bucs paid too much and didn’t really need him anyway. How Favre would not be of no greater benefit to this system than Garcia. The Packers had no intention of trading him within the division or conference if they could help it. I’m glad Gruden/Allen did not give away a 3rd or 2nd round pick for a guy that though talented, could not be counted on after this year…