
Posted Jan 16, 2010 by Scott Carter
Updated Jan 16, 2010 at 07:01 PM
USF played UCF for four consecutive seasons starting in 2005, and the Bulls won each time.
When USF showed little interest in renewing the rivalry after the contract between the schools expired last season, UCF fans and Orlando media members ripped USF officials for their lack of interest in building a long-term rivalry between the schools, located less than 100 miles apart.
New USF coach Skip Holtz knows all about playing UCF. At East Carolina, Holtz’s Pirates faced UCF every season as members of Conference USA. Holtz lost his first game against the Knights, but won four in a row from 2006-09.
What does Holtz think about a USF-UCF rivalry game each season?
“I don’t schedule, so I’m not going to get to make that decision,’’ he said Saturday. “If [athletic director] Doug [Woolard] were to come down and say, ‘Ok, we’ve got some schedule situations and we have the opportunity to play them [UCF} or them, who do you want to play?’
“I would rather play Florida, Florida State or Miami, because I think that’s the level to where we want to build this program to and I think it’s impossible to get to that level unless you can compete at that level. And that’s where we want to play. Those are the type of teams competing for the national championship. That’s where we want to build this program.’‘
At East Carolina, the Pirates rarely faced non-BCS schools in nonconference games, playing North Carolina, Virginia Tech, N.C. State and West Virginia regularly during Holtz’s tenure.
“I’m not opposed to [playing UCF regularly] and I’m certainly not afraid of it, but from a standpoint of where we’re trying to build [our program], I want to compete against some of those other schools before them.’’
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Reader Comments
Por (Dan Alatorre) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
I agree; it just doesn’t help USF to play UCF. Now, if they were to join our conference, THAT would be a different story. We’d be very happy to continue the annual drubbing. But it wasn’t really a rivalry even though we all probably wanted it to be one. The game misrepresented where both programs are. UCF has a good team and a good program. We cheer for them when we are not playing them. But ask anybody; the UCF fans who show up for those games are out of control drunk and obnoxious, people passed out and puking everywhere, there were WAY more fights. That was the one game I never went to and I was glad I didn’t. Definitely not a game to take the children. Who needs all that?
Suggest removalPor (Sam) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
I’m just impressed with the diplomatic way he answered the question. It is great to see someone who is able to communicate and get a cohesive thought out. He summed up the concern for USF without being overly insulting to UCF. Well done Coach Holtz, I look forward to your success!
Suggest removalPor (chris) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
As a UCF fan, I don’t want to continue the series until I feel we can better compete. With that said, it’s good business for both teams. I would probably accept a loss to usf and a sell out crowd to a win against some 1-aa team. As for usf…I’m sure you wouldn’t mind switching out a 1-aa game for a sell out against UCF either.
The “not a rivalry” comment makes me laugh though…there’s obviously a rivalry between the two universities, USF just currently has a competitive advantage in being in the big east. Hopefully that situation will resolve itself sooner than later.
Suggest removalPor (Dan Alatorre) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Fair enough, Chris. I think everyone wanted it to be a rivalry in the competitive sense. I remember getting ready for the first game, we were very excited about a rivalry like UF-FSU. It was great when we won. The next year, the anticipation diminished because we wanted more out of our program and we had concerns about playing teams viewed by voters as “lesser” teams because it would hurt our future - especially if we lost! Years 3 and 4 were not something to worry about, except that winning wasn’t helping us in national rankings, and we had other problems to worry about like midseason meltdowns and getting our 4-star recruits. UCF really needed to win one of the games or interest and attendance would quickly taper off.
Suggest removalPor (Hector Jimenez) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Scott…I have two coaching questions for you.
We know the asst. money pool is tight and some old faces will remain…..I would especially love to see a new OC. But my question are:
1. Is there any possibility that Willie Martinez the old UGA DC gets a call from from Holtz?
I am not saying that Tressey was bad (he had less time to implement his scheme due to the fact that he was hired late) but taking the “next step” may mean getting top-level talent from top BCS conferences.
2. What is Holtz time-table to set his staff in place? I think I missed it.
Thanks.
Suggest removalPor (Don G) on January 17, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Sam, I’m with you on Holtz’s speaking ability and how it’s a huge improvement over Leavitt. As for playing UCF, I understand that playing them probably isn’t the best situation for USF, as at some point, UCF will beat USF and that wouldn’t help USF. However, it does seem such a waste to not play a rival such as UCF. Personally, I’d rather see USF play UCF every year and have a full stadium verses Bulls playing a 1AA team every year. I don’t think playing against 1AA teams helps USF.
Suggest removalPor (Dan Alatorre) on January 18, 2010 (Suggest removal)
Don, that’s a great point. In the overall analysis, playing and beating UCF would have done more for us than playing and beating one of those 1AA cupcakes…
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