Por (steve jones) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

of course he plans on getting an apartment in Plant or Armwood district. It is the legal way around recruiting. They all do it and have done it for many years.There is a loophole to every rule or law.Only way to stop it is to make them sit out a year, by then it isn’t worth it to transfer

Por (Mitch Rebe) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

This is recruiting at it’s finest. I also feel the student should sit out the season. It definitely would stop this recruitment, oh excuse me, “school choice” for athletics. Plant is famous for this as well as Armwood. It leads little for the schools in district to play against them. It is a total shame, I mean sham. Plant’s coach and staff should be investigated or fired. But as usual, Plant will “bail” them out! Money talks, BS walks, or in the other schools case, lose!

Por (WOW) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

WOW why would chamberlain hire a new coach when already in their system they have brian turner who is billy turners son brian has been pretty much coaching the team ever since billy has gotten sick. WHy would we hire a coach from tech when tech has never been good. once again you see recuritment at its best its sad to see all of chamberlains players transferring to other schools because of the adminstration lack of a brain. great job !!!!

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

It’s because Brian Turner is an #####, that’s why. When you cuss at your own dad during practice, you don’t deserve crap. An the AD of Chamberlain seen that. Why else would he not have gotten the job.

Por (dbb) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

You people sound like a bunch of babies. People always want to go where there is SUCCESS. You’d be lying if you tried to deny why you make some of your decisions. Let’s see.. play where there’s no history with a new coach or play for a program that the colleges are watching. Same thing as working for a proven winner vs a company that just starting up. Whether you like them or not, there are coaches out there that get good players because of the success of the program, not because of recruitment.

Por (Ec South) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Go Plant!..who wouldnt want to play at DAD’s stadium??

Por (WOW) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Steven so your saying becasue he cussed at his dad he shouldnt of gotten the job? You have never cussed or said anything bad to your father or mother you regret now? dbb i understand where your coming from i wouldnt want to play for that coach either thats why wilder transferred to plant but you cant tell me plant coaches are good they have good athletes to coach becasue of their good recuritment skiils you cant tell me orson charles just went to plant because of the coaching he was from riverview do you know where riverview is?? its nowhere near plant its called they recruit there are many examples on the plant and armwood teams

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

I think it’s hilarious that Plant and Armwood, who are known to recruit, have always denied that their is nothing going on. They might be tops in football, but they’re laughing stocks in recruitment jokes. Hey dbb, are you trying to tell us that James Wilder Jr. wouldn’t have gotten noticed if he didn’t go to Plant? Read the article again and try to comprehend what you read. He seemed to be doing just fine at Chamberlain. He’s just another kid chasing championships. Where’s the loyalty amongst our kids nowadays?

Por (George) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

So its OK for a coach to leave and go to another school, but not a player. The Chamberlain people don’t know what loyalty means. That is why they are going to lose alot of good players.

Por (Ec South) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Orson Charles caught 13 passes at Riveriew his jr yr. They ran a wing T. He came to Plant and became an Army All American. he may have caught 15 balls as a SR at Riverview..he caught over 70 at Plant and was one of the highest recruited players in the nation. It never would have happened at Riverview..Plant beats teams from the south who are bigger and faster, so dont tell me coaching has nothing to do with it. and players transfer to different schools all over the state and the USA..its been going on for 50 yrs..its only now that it’s documented daily.

Por (dbb) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Hey Steven, If you’ll read what I wrote you’ll see that I was talking in generalities when I mentioned colleges watching, but I see you’re from TnC. That explains alot.  I still say good programs attract people, all the way around. When did you root for, say, the Bucs, Bolts, or Rays. Most didn’t really cheer for any of them until they proved they could win. Same goes for players wanting to get exposed, win championships, etc. I attended Jefferson, didn’t like the school then, don’t care for it now. My kids have all gone to Plant, but I moved to the district for the academics. Not all schools are equal and as soon as you realize that, you’ll stop crying about fairness.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

George, I know your not trying to compare kids to adults. What do you mean by saying “the Chamberlain people don’t know what loyalty means”? What Chamberlain people are you talking about? EC South, and your point is…........? Was Orson an All-American BEFORE he came to Plant? Did he make the 5A All-State Offensive Second team BEFORE he went to Plant? Was Orson a MaxPreps All-American First-Team BEFORE he went to Plant. The answer is NO. I can understand Orsons’ situation way more then James. James has already been recognized by college scouts. Major college scouts. The only reason he’s going to Plant is to CHASE a championship.

Por (dbb) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

And another thing, Steven. Are you saying you wouldn’t do anything you could possibly do to help your child get further than where you are? Have you bought them calculators, provided the internet, etc? Kids going to a school where they might have a better chance to excel is what we’re talking about. Your take on recruitment is short-sighted. These kids come to the Plants and Armwoods because they want the best for themselves, just like they go to the Blakes an TBTs for the training those schools offer.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

There you go dbb, “players wanting to get exposed”. HE’S ALREADY EXPOSED! What, you don’t count Florida, Tennessee, Auburn or South Carolina as getting exposed? An no I’ve never been a Bucs fan, hockey sucks and I’ve held season-tickets for the Rays since the beginning. Season tickets for a guy from Town-N-Country isn’t bad huh? I seen you went to Jefferson, now THAT tells me alot. I don’t blame you for taking your kids to a different school, cause Jefferson has ALWAYS been a rathole. I wouldn’t tell nobody that you went to Jefferson, they might assume your stupid. They would probably be right.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

It would be hard for my kids to reach the goals I’ve reached. It’s possible, but hard. Your dumber then a box of rocks if you think that James is going to Plant to “excel” in academics. I was born at night, but not last night.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

One other thing, you say “have I provided the internet for my kids”. Ummmmmm, well I’m at home and I’m on the internet right now…............yeah, it’s official, your dumber then a box of rocks.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 14, 2009 (Suggest removal)

WOW, my bad, I didn’t see your post. It’s not a matter of cussing at your dad completely. It’s just how he done it. My uncle coached at Chamberlain for over 10 years with Billy. He took a break from coaching but decided he wanted to get back in it. When he decided to get back in it, Brain Turner was there then. My uncle couldn’t believe how Brain yelled at his dad. Needless to say, my uncle decided he wasn’t going to coach there no more but he’d finish the spring with him. Brain didn’t get the job for some reason. Its a lot more to it then you think.

Por (George) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Steven

I think I know who your uncle is. He left CHS because of a ego problem. He thought he knew more than everyone else and the game had passed him by. You see how the program flourished when he left. The fact that they have been so successful especially the last few years shows what was going on there.You are putting out second hand information that is inaccurate. I coached with Billy and Brian and they had a great working relationship. They were coaches on the field, not father and son. Mr Wilder obviously knew what the administration at Chamberlain was all aboutand took his son.

Por (PS) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

I beginning to hate high school sports…

Por (Ford) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

He will be a panther.

Por (Steven, Town -N- Country) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

You couldn’t be further from the truth George. That’s why Billy asked my uncle to come back huh? It sounds like to me that your bitter that Brain didn’t get the job. It’s O.K., He’ll never be a head coach. I seen it myself at those practices. Now I didn’t go to all of them, but I did go to more then a few. An I wouldn’t call one year of a deep playoff run a “flourished” program. You really don’t have a clue do you. I wouldn’t even be surprised if YOU are Brain Turner posing as George. He’s been known to frequent blogs making an ##### out of himself. What’s up Brian, I see you’re bitter still. Let it go.

Por (TAXPAYER) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

Steven and Steve Jones you really don’t believe what you’re saying.  Armwood and Plant aren’t the only two schools in Hillsborough County that kids transfer to. Kids transfer to different schools all over the county and not just for athletics. If the kid is of proper age and has the proper GPA to participate in extra curriculum activities then let it be.

Fyi , I do believe that 100% of the schools across all sports across the state tip toe’s on that recruiting line. It’s just that the winners gets criticized the most. This is America the land of opportunity and where dreams are realized. Everyone from Corporate America to grade school wants to be involved with winners.

Por (Parent) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

It is accurate that parents want their children to be given the best opportunity as possible.  However, it is not only the kids that have no loyalty to the schools, it is also the coaches.  They get all these kids to transfer to Chamberlain and then leave.  What an example to set for the kids.  The loyalty works both ways.  You can’t blame a child/teenager for wanting the best possible position to be placed in.  Especially when you are looking at the possibility of getting beat up all season.

Por (Brain's a -----) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

I played at Chamberlain in the 90’s for Billy and return occasionally. (yeah I know reliving the glory years)I agree 100% with Steven. I saw Brain treat his dad like crap all the time and had enough when one of Brian’s Jefferson recruits laid his hands on Billy and Brain afraid of losing his player did nothing. Thats the difference. As a player that loved his coach like a father we would have handled that kid. These kids now have no loyalty and no respect and Brain puts winning over everything even family. We might not have been the best teams to come out of Chamberlain but some things are more impotant than winning.

Por (Rick) on April 15, 2009 (Suggest removal)

To the parent that posted at 11:01. Are you trying to tell us that you’re mad cause a coach RETIRES and say that he’s not loyal? Look, it shouldn’t matter what the coaches do, their adults. Adults have that right. If you feel that their isn’t a problem with kids going anywhere they want, why should school districts make school boundries? It’s called following the rules. An if you think Chamberlain will get beat up all season, then you don’t know much about football. An you’re not very smart if you think that kids transfer for academics. 80% of students transfer for sports. Ya’ll just don’t see it do you.