
Posted Oct 31, 2008 by Brett McMurphy
Updated Oct 31, 2008 at 02:00 AM
Here’s the game story in Friday’s Tribune. Happy Halloween, anyone? Got questions, complaints, rants, raves, fire away.
CINCINNATI - Need a last-minute Halloween costume for tonight that’s guaranteed to scare the bejeesus out of any University of South Florida fan? Just dress up as the Big East standings.
With No. 24 USF’s 24-10 loss at Cincinnati on Thursday, the most-anticipated season in school history has officially turned into a nightmare.
Since climbing to No. 10 last month, the Bulls (6-3, 1-3) have lost three of their last four.
Since last year’s 6-0 start, the Bulls are 8-7 against Division I-A opponents.
USF sits alone in seventh place in the Big East ahead of only woeful Syracuse (1-6, 0-3).
“We’re not quite at the bottom of the Big East, but pretty much the bottom,” USF coach Jim Leavitt said. “We still have a chance at a bowl game and a chance at finishing strong.”
The Bulls had a chance to rally against the Bearcats (6-2, 2-1) but failed to score on two red-zone opportunities in the fourth quarter. USF had a first-and-goal and first-and-10 from the 13, but came away empty.
A 12-yard completion from Matt Grothe to Taurus Johnson gave USF first-and-goal at the 2. However, on first down Matt Huners was penalized five yards for a false start back to the 7.
Consecutive Ben Williams runs netted one yard each, setting up third and goal from the 5. Grothe threw incomplete on third down. His fourth down pass went deep into the left corner, but there wasn’t a USF receiver within 15 yards.
Following a Cincinnati punt, two Grothe to Jessie Hester completions gave USF first-and-10 at the 13. Grothe’s first down pass was incomplete and a 5-yard pass to Hester set up third-and-5 from the 8. A third down pass to Cedric Hill was incomplete and on fourth down, Grothe threw to Marcus Edwards, who was covered by DeAngelo Smith. It appeared Hester was open in the end zone after his defender fell down.
“We had some good plays on, we just didn’t execute those plays,” USF running backs coach Carl Franks said.
The Bulls’ frustrations have become obvious. Players were yelling at coaches during the game, ESPN’s Erin Andrews reported.
“We’ll get things fixed,” USF senior linebacker Tyrone McKenzie said. “I guarantee this season won’t go down the drain.”
It pretty much already has. On UC’s “blackout” night, the Bearcats officially turned the lights out on the Bulls’ Big East title hopes.
“You never thought this would happen,” USF senior center Jake Griffin said. “It’s exactly like last year, we’re in slump.”
Grothe, under heavy pressure all night, threw for 174 yards. He was 13-for-31 with a season-high three interceptions. He was sacked twice and has been sacked 11 times in USF’s three losses; five times in USF’s six wins.
With RBs Mike Ford and Jamar Taylor at home nursing ankle injuries, Williams led the Bulls with 79 yards rushing. Grothe added 54 and Mo Plancher had 47, including USF’s only TD on a 1-yard dive in the first quarter.
Carlton Mitchell had 77 receptions on four catches to lead the Bulls.
The defense had its share of problems as well, Tribune correspondent Joe Reedy reports. SS Carlton Williams and LB Kion Wilson each had 11 tackles. DE George Selvie had three tackles and a fumble recovery.
For the sixth consecutive season, USF will finish with at least three losses in conference play.
Cincinnati QB Tony Pike, who was playing with a broken left (non-throwing) arm, scorched the Bulls’ secondary for 281 yards (20 of 28, one INT, two TDs). Mardy Gilyard had 98 yards on four receptions.
The Bulls’ third league loss guarantees USF will finish with at least three league losses for the sixth consecutive season. The Bulls finished 4-3 in their first three seasons in the conference. In Conference USA, they were 3-5 in 2004 and 5-3 in 2003.
The Bulls also fell to 0-5 when favored by a touchdown or less in Big East road games.
During the fourth quarter, UC’s fans did the obligatory “overrated” chant. Don’t worry, it will be the last time the Bulls hear that until next season as it’s doubtful USF will return to the rankings this season.
MOMPREMIER’S CAREER OVER: USF senior LB Brouce Mompremier’s career is over because of his neck injury.
Mompremier initially injured his neck at FIU and returned against Syracuse. However, he reinjured his head at Louisville last week and was not allowed to practice last week.
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Reader Comments
Por (uc) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Grothe blaming his receivers, the players yelling at the coaches, all control has been lost. Reality sinks in. USF never was a very good football team. The meteoric rise was bound to fizzle out. I’m afraid USF is going to suffer thru some losing seasons. I don’t see many recruits wanting to step into that situation until the dust settles. Congratulations USF fans you deserve it.
Suggest removalPor (USF95) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
USF is one of the 10 largest Universities in the nation in a recruiting hotbed. They have gotten every break possible getting into the Big East. However, a watered down lousy Big East and the best Leavitt can come up with is 4-3 which he won’t meet this year. He continues to hire awful offensive coordinators with Ohio U reject Gregory. How many Big East championships would we have with Brian Kelly who is a top notch coach? Please! Clemson make another stupid move and hire Leavitt away so we can get a top level coach like Brian Kelly who almost won a Big East title in his first year and won a MAC championship and several D-2 national titles. He is also younger than Leavitt!
Suggest removalPor (Rocky D. Bull) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
That’s it…I’m done.
I can’t take any more of this. I’ll think about coming out again next season if Leavitt axes Gregory. If Gregory is back next year, I’m hitching a ride to the slaughterhouse express. Maybe you’ll be enjoying me as part of your Fourth of July cookouts.
It’s been fun, peeps.
Late…
Suggest removalPor (Sean) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Last night was simply disgusting!!! I have been a Bulls fan and season ticket holder since day one. The team played poor on both sides of the ball. As for special teams they are not even average. I think everyone shares blame for these performances, including the coaches. Get control!!! Player should not be yelling at coaches!!! Defenders who can’t even cover. People know to throw long on us as they will get either a completion or penalty guaranteed!!! And G Gregory needs to stop calling plays. Love the Bulls but just this is driving me crazy!!!
Suggest removalPor (Barney Frank) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
This team is so soft.
What a bunch of flamers.
Suggest removalPor (Bob Saget) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
This reminds me of when D.J. was mad at Stephanie because she was snooping around in her room. Remember….and Michelle was like, “You got it, dude!”
Oh….yeah, that was pretty much every episode.
My condolences, Bulls fans. Uncle Jesse and Joey send their regards as well.
Suggest removalPor (Eric S) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
This season’s Bulls are like the rocks that Charlie Brown kept getting instead of candy.
The Bulls are also like Lucy, who pulls the football away at the last second to Charlie Brown.
I feel like Linus getting stood up every Halloween. “Oh where oh where is the Great Pumpkin?”
Suggest removalPor (Don G) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett, as you’ve indicated, it looks like the common factor with the Bull’s problems is Leavitt. With many different players and different offensive and defensive coordinators over the years, Leavitt is the one constant factor. Having a 8-7 against 1-A schools since their 6-0 start last year and a current 13-12 record since they joined the Big East, it’s obvious there’s problems with this program. And last year’s Sun Bowl loss was an embarrassment and was another example of USF getting out-coached. Gregory does a poor job of making needed adjustments to offense during the game and his offense lacks creativity of their play-calling in the red-zone.
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Dan, you’re right about losing the NFL cornerbacks. I guess USF fans took for granted how good they were. Basically all of USF’s assistant coaches, when they hired by USF, were either out of a job, in between jobs or promoted from high school/GA positions. This is not a slam on the assistants (they are all stand up guys, honest and candid with me and I appreciate that very much), but because the assistants’ salary pool has been so historically low, those were the only types that would be interested in coming to USF. Also, I think Leavitt enjoys hiring people in that situation - almost like they’ll be more loyal to him because they owe him.
Suggest removalPor (Rich) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett,
Tell Leavitt to take a pay cut if he wants to pay coordinators more. 2nd highest paid coach in BE at $1.5M isn’t getting our moneys worth. Tell him to take a $300k cut to be inline with Wanstache and kelly.
He needs to be held accountable for hiring a quality staff. Seems like he skimps on the assistants so he can hoard it all himself. Stewart may not be a good head coach but at least he took $800k knowing he wanted the program to be able to hire better assistants.
Suggest removalPor (Eric S) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett, your analysis on why Leavitt assistant coaches with those backgrounds is very interesting. I never thought of it that way. Only Leavitt knows if it is true or not, unless some disgruntled assistant talks out about his boss.
Your report on Eddie Cardieri a few years back was some great reporting, no matter how many feathers it rustled.
Your non-biased analysis is appreciated. As an alumnus I know I could never analyze the the situation at USF from a non-biased viewpoint.
Suggest removalPor (Allen Brown) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
yeah, Leavitt only hires people down on their luck so that they will be loyal to him. They are all terrible at their jobs. Wow. Keep piling it on, Brett!
Enjoy the down times while you can, I guess.
Suggest removalPor (Patrick O'Rourke) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Spoken like a true USF homer, Allen.
Very nice.
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Doug, interesting comparison between Leavitt and Seth. There are some similarities there, but I think Leavitt has progressed the program further than hoops - but then again this is a football state and recruiting hotbed. And, I know you’re kidding (I think), but there’s no way, USF would turn down a bowl bid. Allen, I’m asked questions, so I answer. I’m sorry you don’t like the answers. UC, you bring up a good point. How will recruits view this team? You can’t tell a RB or WR you’ll be “the man” because of USF’s RB/WR by committee. It will be an interesting challenge.
Suggest removalPor (Allen Brown) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
I’m just saying you don’t have to steal coaches from other schools to get quality guys.
You accused Leavitt of getting guys that can’t get another job just so they are loyal to him. That’s ridiculous, especially considering how much turn over there has been in the coaching staff.
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
USF95, I don’t think Clemson will go after Leavitt. And Allen, you want a rundown on the assistants: Burnham fired at SCar 98, hired USF 00; Canales fired at AZ 07; hired USF 08; Douglas left Indiana in 05; was in running for North Texas and some other jobs; hired USF 06; Franks fired Duke 04, hired USF 05; Gregory left Ohio 03 out of coaching a year; hired USF 05; Hendrick left S.C. State 07; hired USF 08; Patrick out of coaching 10 years; hired USF 08; Scott GA at USF 06; hired USF 07; Simmonds GA at USF 06; hired USF 07.
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Rich, until recently the assistants were the lowest paid in the BCS (as I’ve written before). Leavitt’s latest contract bumped them up just below the average of the BCS schools. But if/when you’re replacing assistants, you’re unlikely to get someone from a Texas, Bama, etc. because those schools pay so much more and it would be a pay cut to work at USF. And, I realize, just because someone makes more money doesn’t make them a better coach, but it certainly gives you a bigger pool of candidates to choose from. Don G., someone who’s opinion I value very much told me the Sun Bowl was the worst prepared game he’s seen at USF - and he’s seen nearly all of them.
Suggest removalPor (Patrick O'Rourke) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett…
Wow.
That rundown of the assistants your provided there is truly eye-opening. I THOUGHT your were on to something when you first espoused that theory, now I KNOW you are.
It’s going to be hard for many fans to keep supporting this program with big donations if it’s going to be the Jim Leavitt Charity Ball. The consequences of such a philosophy are only now beginning to show themselves…and it aint pretty.
Suggest removalPor (Hector Jimeenz) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett….I know we are all disappointed, none more than the players and coaches. What changes do you forsee coming for USF in the offseason? A classic offensive attack, a true spread, coaching and personnel changes for a new system.
I realize that Leavitt will be given every opportunity to stay, he built it and he will leave on his terms, but if we see it he has to see that changes need to occur at USF. And again, they don’t just have to be on the coaching side, maybe a different O system or players we go after.
Great coverage and blog!
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Hector, great, great question. However, even if Leavitt does have changes in plan already for next season, he won’t share those publicly. I’m not sure what personnel changes you would see (other than seniors leaving) - they would have made them by now if they thought it would help.
Suggest removalPor (Rich) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett,
I know they have been bumped but I think Leavitt needs to think about sacrificing some of his pay to go out there and get somebody to run this offense. Maybe take $1.2M per year like Wanstadt or kelly and put that $300k back into assistants. Even Stewart sacrificed his pay for better assistants. I know we can’t hire away from the big boys but I think UF pays Mullen $290k. Add $130k to GG salary and we should be able to find somebody competent. Rice, Houston, Nevada,Ball State,etc. There has to be a young, dynamic, up and coming OC out there somewhere. Heck the ball State HC “only” makes $240k per year.
Suggest removalPor (Rich) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
I also find it disturbing that leavitt is fine picking through the castoffs. He needs to hire people that have been successful at lower levels. Start cherry picking successful coaches like the big programs do.
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Rich, I would be shocked if Leavitt took money away from what he was making and gave it to another assistant. It probably would cause more internal problems with the entire staff. The (fill in the blank) assistant would be upset he didn’t get more money when the (fill in the blank) assistant did. Not unless, Leavitt was able to bump every assistant - and, again, I think that would be very, very doubtful. In fairness to Leavitt, that’s for the school to determine if they want to pay the coaches more money - not up to the head coach to take it out of his salary. Now, of course, you can argue, he could have initially got the assistants more.
Suggest removalPor (Dan) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Brett, a real eye-opener comment re: USF asst coaches. Maybe Leavitt uses a recruiting agency or an agent, or himself (do you know?), but two things pop out: more money draws more interest from more parties, and maybe our recruiting of coaches has been off. Fix the recruiting of coaches and you fix a lot of problems. Leavitt may have taken the best of who was obviously available instead of trying for the best. As a manager, the hardest thing to do is recruit for replacement - be looking for guys when you’re fully staffed. But that’s what the best do… Maybe Leavitt lacks that skill. Who would help him, the AD?
Suggest removalPor (Brett McMurphy) on October 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Dan, yes, Leavitt has an agent. And yes, the more money for assistants, the bigger pool of candidates to chose from. Remember, USF also got Dan McCarney after he was fired at Iowa State, but he left for a better opportunity at UF this year. The thing is, I don’t see USF making a huge increase in money for assistants, especially in these economic times.
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