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Posted Jun 10, 2008 by Roy Cummings
Updated Jun 10, 2008 at 02:35 PM
TAMPA - A lot of Buccaneers were talking about what Chris Simms had to say about Coach Jon Gruden on Tuesday. Gruden wasn’t one of them.
Gruden calmly denied my request to speak on the matter, saying, “No, not today.’‘
No surprise there. Gruden is not mandated to speak after every off-season workout, and with this being a real hot-button topic he probably wants to take some to formulate a response.
While Gruden remained silent, though, others spoke. None expressed any surprise at Simms comments, but most said it was simply a personal matter between Simms and the coach and wasn’t unlike a lot of other situations they’ve encountered in the past.
“Everybody’s entitled to his own opinion,’’ WR Ike Hilliard said when asked about Simms comments. “We’d like everybody to be here, because we’re all teammates and we all love him but we’ll see what happens going forward.’‘
“You just have let it go and go about doing your own job,’’ WR Michael Clayton said. “As players our job is to work hard and do our part. We have to stay away from injuries and let whatever happens happen.’‘
In other Bucs news, there has been a settlement in the Jake Plummer case, and Plummer has come out the loser. A day before he would have gone to a hearing on the matter he agreed to give back half of the $7 million signing bonus he got when he signed his last contract with the Broncos.
That money doesn’t go to the Broncos, though; it goes to the Bucs. They won the rights to it when they traded for Plummer last offseason. The fact that Plummer never played a down for them doesn’t matter. When players voluntarily fail to play out their entire contract, they run the risk of being asked to give back some of the bonus money they received upon signing that contract. That’s what happened with Plummer.
The money the Bucs get in this case will be applied to next year’s salary cap. That may seem like a big deal, but keep in mind that the Bucs had $45 million worth of cap space at the start of the current off-season and have sat on most of it. So what did the Bucs really achieve in all this? Well, they got about $3.5 million for a seventh-round draft pick. That’s not bad. You’ve got to think, though, that they’d much rather have the player. That, though, was never going to happen.
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Por (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Ahhhhhh Mitch I’m an idiot for putting my last name in my posts ????? LMAO.. Sounds like you are hiding behind a keyboard there stud !!! Your pathetic. I will agree that that team needed a kick in their butts to make the next level. I also agreed that they did a good job on the o-line if you would read again… So a bunch of Rb’s 28 yrs and older are a young group??? REALLY. What is the average carrer span for a RB ???? 6 yrs tops. GOOD POINT THERE MITCH GREAT JOB !!! AS far as the LB’s I will give you Rudd but what else ?? A bunch of guys who haven’t played or did and nothing special? The WR’s are ” ageless ” and a ” stop gap ” ????? What is that ?? Who are you talking about after those 2??? Clayton, Warren, Stovall LMAO.
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Ohhh and James way to chime in there. WAY TO COME STRONG THERE STALLION !!!! LMAO. Do you have anything pertinent to add other than name calling??? Seriously I’m a little older than 6th grade !! James I’m going to tell the principle in a minute
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Yea Jaaaammmesss you brought in Antonio Bryant who hasn’t been on someones roster more than a year and Jeramy Stevens. GREAT JOB !!!! Jeff Faine was the best pickup and you over paid for him. What else you got ??? Jared Allen, DJ Hackett, Devery Henderson, & Brian Berrian are all with other teams and the Bucs still have 40+ million under tha cap !!!!!!! LMAO. Seriously you guys are making this tooooo simple
Suggest removalPor (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Chumpp, you a bucs fan? Just curious. And we’re all hiding behind our keyboards, don’t think you are Mr Toughguy cause you listed your last name. And it’s YOU’RE Pathetic, not YOUR Pathetic. If YOU’RE going to insult people, use proper grammar. Out of the top 10 RB’s last year, guess how many of them will be younger than 28 in 2008? Give up? 3 - Portis, McGahee and Peterson. Guess what the average age of the top 10 will be? 28.4 years. So yeah, I’d say that we’re OK at RB, especially since we will be employing a RB by committee. At LB, remember Cato June?
Suggest removalPor (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)
As for Jared Allen, DJ Hackett, Devery Henderson, & Brian Berrian; Henderson stayed put in NO, Allen was traded to MN and Hackett & Berrien were highly overrated. If you are going to try to find examples of people who wont come and play for Gruden, do better than those 4. We’re better off without those 3 WR’s and the price for Jaren Allen was way too steep. I’m still waiting for those concrete examples of players who hate Gruden. Come on big guy, get those hampsters in your brain running.
Suggest removalPor (James Anderson) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Ok….so maybe 8th grade Chupp. Still sounds like your a Big Dog clone. Tune in today and buy more of his dribble. Yeah Mitch…wondered if he ever heard of Cato. This is proof you should pass a test and have a license before being allowed to possess a keyboard. BTW…when Stevens scored the winning td at New Orleans, I bet all you haters were cursing instead of applauding. You might as well start pouting now, cause Bryant may score 6-10 tds this year. Grab the stones all ye judges and hurl away.
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
James…. thank you for proving my point. Have you brought anything to the table yet ?? I haven’t forgot about Cato June with his 74 tackles. Those are mind boggling stats. It would be easy to forget that. The Antonio Bryant comment about scoring 6-10 td’s this year, I spit my drink out on my monitor. He has scored 6 td’s once in his career when he can stay on the field. I mean really have you got your license to post ????? James just wait for Mitch to post and agree with him.
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Mitch…. Nice job correcting my grammar. I just wanted to keep it simple for you. I have given you examples of players not happy with Gruden. You chose to spin it and thats fine. If you want to take the words of players over your fabricated belief that your perogative!! I will stick with what the players say !! I’m still waiting for you to prove to me Griese is in love with Gruden. That was your statement wasn’t it ?? It wasn’t in the article you posted about how happy he was to be back with Gruden. I didn’t see Grudens name in there at all. C-mon Spin Dr
Suggest removalPor (Mitch R) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Jim, the players you have mentioned are not applicable.
Keyshawn - Suspended BY Gruden for being an A-hole.
Keenan - Held out due to money, not cause he hated Gruden.
Allstot - Didn’t see him going anywhere
Lynch - Cut, didn’t leave on his own, was pushed out the door
Simms - Unhappy cause he’s like 5th on the depth chart.
I’m waiting for a few names of top players (in their prime) that had contracts that were up and said, “You know what, I hate Gruden, I’m out of here.”
The only example of this I could think of was Dewayne White, and one of the big reasons he left was to be with Marinelli.
Keep thinking and maybe you’ll stike gold.
Suggest removalPor (Mitch R) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Jim, RE: the Grammar, just keeping you honest
And yes, I’m done with the insults, If you’re up to it, let’s just talk facts now.
Suggest removalPor (Charels Fiske) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Hey Jim Chump, the panthers have a better over all records but how many DIVISION TITLES AND SB and PLAY OFF appearences do they have in the last 7 yrs. I will take titles,SB, and playoffs before i take over all records. Also we never had a shot at J Allen. We didnt have enough picks to get him. Who is Brian Beriman? Benard Berriman was overpaid. hacket is no better then half the recievers we currenlty have. Thsy did want to play for gruden, tehy just got better offers. Oh by the way I said the Bucs had 3 division titles not 4. The rest of the division together had 4 titles in 7 yrs. Why dont you get your facts straight before you quote someone.
Suggest removalPor (Charels Fiske) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Jim, yes we did win our division at 9-7. but we nad the division won at 9-5 and chose to rest our starters. If we wouldnt have been so good and had the division wrapped up early our record would have been 10-6 or 11-5. dont hate on us cause we had the division wrapped up early.
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Ahhhh Chas. Way to come in with the name calling also. Man you guys are really hurtng me. GROW UP and have a civil conversation you children !! So Charles you will take Division titles and one and dones. I was just as happy as you in 2002 but since then I have seen nothing but deceipt and disgruntled players in this organization. Gruden talking out the side of his mouth. Mitch why are those players not applicable ?? Keyshawn was phased out of the offense by who? Keenan was promised a new contract by who? Whether you want to admit it or not Gruden was behind this as well. Mark Alstott never figured in his plans and was phased out. Even D Brooks held out cause he was promised a new deal and he had to hold out.
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Again Griese was happy to leave here and was mad that he was traded back here. He said it is known around the league about this organization. This is what the players are saying!! Lynch pushed out the door who was behind that?? All these things happen with upper management yes but it also goes through the coach. Chas.. Hackett isn’t better than half the WR’s you have now ????? Are you serious? This is what I’m talking about. Where do you come up with that. What receivers other than Galloway or Hilliard ???
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Chas your quote was… “Hey Jim Chump, the panthers have a better over all records but how many DIVISION TITLES AND SB and PLAY OFF appearences do they have in the last 7 yrs. I will take titles,SB, and playoffs before i take over all records “
Ah Chas at least they are 5-2 in their playoffs. They lost in the Superbowl to a dynasty today. The Bucs are 3-2. Yes they dont have a SB, but at least when they get in they make a run. Atlanta made it to the NFC Championship game when they won the division. I would rather do all that than 1 and done. You want to compare records there you go !!
Suggest removalPor (Jim Chupp) on June 13, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Mitch you seem like the only rational guy on here. What did you think about James comment on Bryant ?? 6-10 td’s ?? Thats what I mean !! That is just ridiculous !! Chas wants division titles and 1 and dones because the Bucs are the cats meow over EVERYONE ELSE !!
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