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Gruden Silent On Simms Matter

Posted Jun 10, 2008 by Roy Cummings

Updated Jun 10, 2008 at 02:35 PM

TAMPA - A lot of Buccaneers were talking about what Chris Simms had to say about Coach Jon Gruden on Tuesday. Gruden wasn’t one of them.

Gruden calmly denied my request to speak on the matter, saying, “No, not today.’‘

No surprise there. Gruden is not mandated to speak after every off-season workout, and with this being a real hot-button topic he probably wants to take some to formulate a response.

While Gruden remained silent, though, others spoke. None expressed any surprise at Simms comments, but most said it was simply a personal matter between Simms and the coach and wasn’t unlike a lot of other situations they’ve encountered in the past.

“Everybody’s entitled to his own opinion,’’ WR Ike Hilliard said when asked about Simms comments. “We’d like everybody to be here, because we’re all teammates and we all love him but we’ll see what happens going forward.’‘

“You just have let it go and go about doing your own job,’’ WR Michael Clayton said. “As players our job is to work hard and do our part. We have to stay away from injuries and let whatever happens happen.’‘

In other Bucs news, there has been a settlement in the Jake Plummer case, and Plummer has come out the loser. A day before he would have gone to a hearing on the matter he agreed to give back half of the $7 million signing bonus he got when he signed his last contract with the Broncos.

That money doesn’t go to the Broncos, though; it goes to the Bucs. They won the rights to it when they traded for Plummer last offseason. The fact that Plummer never played a down for them doesn’t matter. When players voluntarily fail to play out their entire contract, they run the risk of being asked to give back some of the bonus money they received upon signing that contract. That’s what happened with Plummer.

The money the Bucs get in this case will be applied to next year’s salary cap. That may seem like a big deal, but keep in mind that the Bucs had $45 million worth of cap space at the start of the current off-season and have sat on most of it. So what did the Bucs really achieve in all this? Well, they got about $3.5 million for a seventh-round draft pick. That’s not bad. You’ve got to think, though, that they’d much rather have the player. That, though, was never going to happen.

Reader Comments

Por (Jamie) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the update, Roy.  Unlike a lot of other a-holes that reply here, I enjoy reading your updates.  They keep reading even though they keep complaining.  If they were really dissatisfied, they would not even be responding.

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Por (A Phillips) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

3.5 million here 3.5 million there and pretty soon you are talking about a whole lot of money.

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Por (Ronald E. Alicea) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

CVal - get back on your meds, dude.  You’re losing it.  All of it.

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Por (BigBucFan) on June 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Jamie, your point is well taken. Many of us are Football Junkies & come to the site for real important Football news about the Bucs. Please refer to Anwar’s recent report from OTA’s. Very good informative news. I would like to hear about our new Rookie crop and their progress. Unfortunately I think that The Buc’s Organization has banned Roy, Ira & their group from 1 Buc Place do to their negativity, hate for Gruden, & their constant bashing of this team’s decisions. I wish they would stick to Football & the Positive, but I’m a glutten for punishment.

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Por (David) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

You know, all this b.s is funny. I am a navy doc who has been to Iraq and has seen first hand soldiers die on the table in front of me and I couldn’t do anything..and someone had the nerve to call Chris Simms a hero? This guy plays football!!! It’s not rocket science! Yes u have to be physically fine tuned but, do u think that if he knew he had a ruptured spleen he would have continued? I know guys who knew they would bleed out if they went back for a buddy but did it anywayz b/c THEY WERE HEROES! I love the bucs but people…letz keep this in context…

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Por (flajoe491) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

David ,Texas best reply I have ever seen on this site . The service men and women are the real heros. Thanks for service also .

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Por (ref813) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

CVAL, you’ve been a fan since ‘76.  Who cares?  You must be getting old or never knew what you were talking about.  Grad stepped in and did at least as well as Simms with the same line.  How is that possible?  When you don’t just stand there and throw the ball to the D-line, you don’t get beat up as much.  I will credit Simms for showing toughness for one game.  He did play with a terrible injury.  I will not call him a hero for that.  As much as a baby as he appears to be now, I bet he would have left the game had he known he had more than a cracked rib or something.  No one knew about the injury until later, so it’s hard to give the guy so much credit just for playing through some pain.  Players do it all of the time.

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Por (doug revis) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I am sorry I have to post.  It is obvious some of you do not understand what is going on here.  Gruden and Bruce Allen are liars and bring in questionable people with records.  As for Sims, MitchR, he had a spleen injury which he could have died.  Then they had the nerve to bring him back when he wasn’t ready. Listen to Wdae620am, from the players themselves.  Atleast with Dungy things were on the up and up none of these character issues and he told the truth.  Players are leaving, not wanting to come here and be treated this way.

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Por (todd) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I’m sorry, But I don’t recall him ever coming back after that spleen injury. Am I missing something here ? They gave him 2 million dollars to sit on the bench when they could have just let his ##### go. And if your talking about that game itself, he didn’t even know he had that injury until after the game. Nobody knew.  If you gave me millions of dollars to play football I’d leave my guts on the field too. What ever happens happens as long as my family is taken care of.

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Por (Jim Chupp) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Mitch R, NYC What are you talking about ??? Everyone loves to play for him ?? I think if you would ask Garcia if he loves Gruden we all know the answer to that. Griese was pissed when he was traded to the Bucs that was reported on several sites. Ask McCardell, Keyshawn, Alstott, & Sims. and the list goes on. Are you kidding me ??? You need to get over yourself !! The Bucs have millions under the salary cap and raise the price of tickets .  They won’ttake care of Graham or Garcia with all this money ?? Hilliard and Carter are just glad they have a job. 1 SB and 3 South titles mixed in with alot of losing seasons !!

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Por (Mitch R) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Jim Chump, Get over myself?  The proof is in the pudding.  Ask Keyshaw? Ask Keenan?  Are you kidding?  Two selfish players who aren’t happy anywhere.  Why dont you ask people like: Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Derrick Brooks, Rich Gannon, Joey Galloway, and Yes Jeff Garcia.  He may be unhappy about his contract, but Gruden was the one he came to Tampa for.  I also don’t remember Alstott going anywhere when his contracts were up.  Gruden doesn’t handle the money Allen does, so just because guys are unhappy due to their contracts doesn’t mean they don’t love their coach.  Why don’t you think before you post.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Doug Revis, what are you talking about? Simms almost died cause of a ruptured spleen and what? That’s Gruden’s fault?  They brought him back too early?  Like when? 2007 training camp?  Don’t be an idiot.

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Por (James Anderson) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dave, Most of us don’t listen to WDAE afternoon drivetime anymore because it is hosted by a biased hater. Name the players (besides Simms) who want out and don’t want to play here? Names? Lynch didn’t WANT to leave. Sapp didn’t WANT to leave. Rice didn’t WANT to….leave . Kelly wanted to leave simply because he lost his starting job. Names Dave. Names….tune in today and Steve might give ya some.

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Por (James Anderson) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

CVal…wow. Are you real. Let’s dial up any doc in the NFL and see if a player with a ‘transfusion’ would be allowed to re-enter a game. Transfusion = internal bleeding. May have received it ‘AFTER’ the game in the locker room. I-V during the game. The antogonism is staggering. And never knew being an informed, objective fan made us fascist. Someone send this guy a dictionary on that. Stop the hate! Stop the hate! Play football! Play football!

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Por (charles fiske) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Jim Chump 1 Sb win and 3 south titles in 7 yrs isn’t good?  What is the Saint, Falcons, And Panthers records for the last 7 yrs.  None of them have a record that compares to ours since gruden took over.  What they got 4 south titles combined.  I will take our record over any one elses in our division since gruden took over.  Think about what your writing before you post.  James A is right.  How many player have we had come through this organization in the last 7 yrs.  How many left because they wanted to.  Just a couple.  you cant make every player happy no matter how hard you try.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I love these people who bash Gruden and think that we are running a prison camp rather than an NFL team.  Players dont want to leave, and for the most part we’ve done a great job keeping our key players over the past 7 years.  The ones that we have let walk were deemed expendible at the time, right or wrong.  I can’t think of a player who didn’t stay when given the opportunity.  Probably DeWayne White is one of the few, and I honestly don’t think that he was missed.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Jim Chump, from ther Griese article in today’s TBO, he seems very happy to be back in TB and with Gruden.  Are you ready to admit you’re wrong?

“It was tough to go out like that in 2005 with an injury,” Griese said. “It hurt. It hurt bad. There’s no doubt about it that I have unfinished business here. I felt very comfortable and never really wanted to leave. It’s good to be wanted. I wish they had wanted me two years ago to be honest, but that’s the business and I understand that.”

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Por (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Mitch R and Charles where do I start ?? Hey Mitch R ( whats your last name coward ) where in that article does it say Griese is happy to be playing for Gruden??? I will give you a second, reread it, HEY IT DOESN’T DOES IT !!! Griese is happy to have a job period. The bears won’t pay 300k to keep him with Grossman as their QB??? LMAO. The name calling is very mature and shows your intelligence. NICE JOB. Charles before you post PLEASE THINK before you post !!! 48-48 for Gruden WOW. The Panthers are 51-45 so thats better from what I see. You need a calculator or can you use your fingers and toes ??

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Por (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

1 SB is a great accomplishment when you win with someone elses team isn’t it !!! He was lucky he played the Raiders because they knew every play they were running. What the defense had 3 td’s that game jumping routes ?? Callahan was an idiot for not changing his plays in certain situations. The Bucs players were saying we knew what they were going to run. And Charles once again they don’t have 4 South titles. Hard to do that when every other year your going 7-9, 5-11, & 4-12 and oh yeah you win a title at 9-7. Again son think before you post

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Por (Jim Chupp) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Guys I’m running reality at you. If you choose to wear the colored glasses go ahead. Passion and being a fan is one thing but not using judgement is another. This team is becoming the Raiders. They are getting old and have questionable characters coming on this team !! Except for the o-line ( Bucs did a great job with them ) everyone is getting old. Millions under the cap and raising ticket prices they won’t take care of Garcia or Graham?? Again this is reality. More than the usual players are disgruntled with Gruden and Allen and you want to call them whinners. WAKE UP. Its not the players. Thats all I’m done with you

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Por (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Chump, the team is getting old?  Really?
LBs - With the exception of Brooks, all under 30 (Ruud 25, June 29)
O-Line - Majority under 27
D-Line - With the exception of Carter all under 30
CB - With exception of Barber, all under 30 and most at 28
S - All under 30
WR - Galloway is ageless, Hilliard is stop gap, but the rest of them 27 and younger
RB - Graham 28, Bennett 30, Caddy - 24, Askew 28, Dunn 33
QB - Old, I’ll give you that

Fact is, we’ve done a great job over the past 2 years drafting and getting younger.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Chump, why would I put my last name on here?  I’m not an idiot (oops).  The title of the article states - After 2 years, Griese happy to be back.  It doesn’t say, After 2 years, Griese pissed to be back (as you have stated).  Being that you are in the know, please tell me all of the players that are so unhappy and hate Gruden and all of the others who have left because of Gruden.  I’m still waiting on that list.

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Por (Mitch R) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Chump, please fill me in on how Tony Dungy faired in the playoffs with the same team that Gruden took to the Super Bowl.  Oh that’s right, 3 straight first round playoff losses.  Couldn’t beat Philly.  All Gruden did was add Pittman, Joe Jurevicius, & McCardell on top of Dungy’s players and won.  Say what you want, if Dungy was around in 2002, we don’t win the SB.

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Por (James Anderson) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

<~if last name was Chump, would use my initials. Love the angst mate. But you need to admit, if anyone’s judgement is clouded…it be yours. Free agent changes this offseason…got younger at every position.

<~ pass the calculator to Einstein.

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Por (James Anderson) on June 12, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Opps..it’s Chupp…sorry…my bad

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