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Grothe On Heisman: I Don’t Have A Chance In Hell

Posted Sep 16, 2008 by Brett McMurphy

Updated Sep 16, 2008 at 07:52 PM

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University of South Florida junior QB Matt Grothe has been appearing on some Heisman Trophy lists and the school is officially promoting him as a Heisman candidate.

Grothe, however, doesn’t expect to be getting the bronze statue.

“Honestly, I don’t have a chance in hell to win the Heisman,” Grothe told The Tampa Tribune Tuesday. “Not just this year, any year. It’s politics.

“We’ve been around for 11 years, it [Heisman] will go to a school that’s been around forever.”

The last player to win from a somewhat non-national power was BYU’s Ty Detmer in 1990. Since 1991, the winners have been from Miami, Florida State, Colorado, Ohio State, Florida, Michigan, Texas, Wisconsin, Nebraska, USC and Oklahoma.

Grothe said he’s appreciative of any recognition or consideration he receives as a Heisman candidate because it will help the school with recruiting down the road.

Grothe also has been popping up on some Heisman lists .

I have a Heisman vote, and it really doesn’t matter how many yards Grothe runs for or throws for. If he’s going to be considered a serious Heisman candidate on a national scale, the most important stat will be 12 – as in 12 regular season victories. That will garner Grothe the most attention, leading an undefeated team to the Big East title.

Earlier Monday, Grothe was a guest on the Jim Rome show. Click on the MP3 link above to hear Grothe in the Jungle.

In the past two weeks, his father received threatening messages from UCF fans and, when asked by a Tribune reporter, Grothe said last week he believes college players should get compensation for jersey sales.

First HOT director dies: Sid Haton, the University of South Florida’s first marching band director and who orchestrated the first appearance of the Herd of Thunder, died Friday in North Carolina. He was 45.

Reader Comments

Por (Stu) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Ummm…most college football players do get compensated.  They get a SCHOLARSHIP for a free education.  Since I wasn’t good enough to play, Sallie Mae gets a monthly check from me.

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Por (Olaf Berserkser) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

How much money did you make for the university while you attended Stu?

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Por (Steve O'Neal) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Brett, did Grothe just jump up and say “Hey we should get paid”, or was he responding to a question asked of him by a reporter?

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Por (Stephen Lytle) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

As a former USF athlete I completely agree with Grothe on the matter of payment for athletes from their jersey sales. They work hard and make that number worth money, I was on scholarship and that still only goes so far. I wasn’t a football player and wouldn’t have benefited from this but from the “poor college student” perspecitve it would really help out.

Brett, have you seen this?
http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/
It might help for USF fans to go and vote for Grothe, in the end the fan voting counts for one vote towards the Heisman.

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Por (Brett McMurphy) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Steve, I told Grothe there was a piece done by a CNBC reporter and this reporter listed all the college players whose jersey numbers are sold at each school, and this reporter thought the players should receive a percentage of the sales. I then asked Grothe if he thought he should get a percentage and he answered the question.

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Por (Dave Kelly) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Give me a break!!!!!  I am so sick of these atheletes complaining about not getting paid.  YOU KNOW THAT GOING IN!!! If you don’t like it, give up the full scholarship, free room and board and go to work like the rest of us.  I am sick of this arguement from these “unpaid” atheletes.

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Por (Stephen Lytle) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dave, I am not sure if you know this but most student athletes do not have the time to work with practice and classes. Also, they are required to get employment approved before they can take a job. Maybe you do not know this but scholarships do not provide anything beyond tuition, board, and expenses. So let’s say they are getting $20k in scholarships a year (which is a stretch). Can you pay for school and everything in your life with 20k?

It’s humorous to hear people say how athletes don’t deserve the money from their jersey sales. Consider if you were working a sales job and were excellent at it. Then you receive commissions to reward your ability. Same goes for athletes. How is it unfair to reqard someone for something they create?

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Por (Allen Brown) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Athletes can get all the same academic scholarships every other student can.  If you are poor, you can get a Pell Grant.  You can not give money to athletes because then boosters could buy thousands of jerseys to resell later just to give the athletes money.  That would make the bigger schools even more effective at recruiting.

There would be even less of a reason to go to schools with less media attention if you know you are going to make more money going to the big programs.

If you pay athletes, they would all have to get the same stipend at every school in the nation and every athlete would have to get the same amount.  Not just football players.

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Por (Allen Brown) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This is the most ridiculous argument ever.  There are too many ethical considerations and potential loopholes to give athletes more money than they get already.  You get paid to play.  You can still get all the same advantages every other student gets. Other students do not get sport scholarships.

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Por (william goldman) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

DAVE, I’M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE ATTENDANCE AT THE RAYS GAMES. ANY TEAM IN THE HUNT THAT CAN’T DRAW 30,000 PEOPLE DOESN’T DESERVE A TEAM. THE WORST PART IS THAT NEARLY HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE RED SOX FANS. SHAME ON YOU,RAYS FANS.

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Por (Dave Kelly) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Grothe for Heisman??????????????? This is a bigger joke than paying the players!!!  How about win something, ANYTHING before the unwarrented Heisman talk starts.  I remember a team ranked number 2 in the nation only to lose three in a row.  Yeah, there’s a Heisman winner there!!!!!!!

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Por (Jon McKee) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Hey Matt,
Stick to football dude.  Let the business major grads figure out the financial side and keep your stupid a** piehole shut. Focus on your team and winning the BE!

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Por (Ben Forlaw) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dave, there is a lot of anger coming from your posts ... take it easy!  There’s nothing wrong with a little hype.  I think most fans/alumni like me who follow USF football would think it is pretty cool to see USF with a Heisman candidate.  Like Grothe said, it would help the school’s recruiting tremendously if we have a candidate, because it makes the program, the coaching and the university look good when it supports a player in this manner.  Also Grothe is now a junior, and I personally feel he has improved almost every aspect of his game since he started as a freshman.  Don’t fault him either about the “paying the players” argument, it’s an asked and answered thing.  He’s not making a big deal out of it, everyone else is.

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Por (Steve O'Neal) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Hey Jon McKee, calm down dude. Do you read any of the other comments posted here? It has already been established that Grothe did not start this conversation, he only ANSWERED a question by Brett McMurphy. I guess next time he should just say “no comment”. I don’t see a problem with the question or the HONEST answer. GO BULLS!

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Por (Bruce Walling) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Matt has enought smarts to memorize 100’s of plays and all the variations and go to school. I would be very careful calling him anything less than a very bringt guy along with his athletic gifts.

Yes, he is receiving a full scholarship worth big $$, but his oppertunity to have a job like so many other students is limited do to long hours of training before, during and after football season. Allowing student athletes to earn a % of what a school receives for someone buying a jersey with their name on it seems only fair and reasonable.

BWalling

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Por (Jon McKee) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

OK, so maybe it was just a thoughtless response to a stupid question.

Point is, Matt focus on FIU, on burying them.

You, your team, school and fans will all benefit from a focused, no-nonsense, undistracted leader.

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Por (Jt) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Brett,

Grothe has really saved this program.  Remember how horrible our passing game was with Pat Julmiste at QB! He deserves the hype.

Any injury updates especially at RB.  Is Taylor ok?  I saw him limp off the field at the end of the KU game. 

Also, will we see BJ Daniel if we get a big lead Sat?  I hope we didn’t burn a redshirt so he can sit the bench.  He should be the top backup.

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Por (Brett McMurphy) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

JT, Taylor will be ready to go. Supposedly Mike Ford will also and possibly Ben Williams. As far as B.J. Daniels, he played in the opener against Tennessee Martin, so his redshirt is gone. If the Bulls get a comfortable lead, you’ll see him in the game against FIU.

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Por (Paul Allen) on September 16, 2008 (Suggest removal)

All pro athletes are payed a base salary. The better players are payed more and are allowed to make money off of the sale of merchandise, such as jerseys. Why should college sports be any different? The scholarship is the base salary. If a player is good enough to have his jersey be sold, why shouldn’t he be compensated?

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Por (Allen Brown) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Paul Allen:  So you are in favor of every big school with more media attention having even more of an advantage in recruiting?  You are in favor of boosters being able to buy thousands of jerseys for “resale” in order to give recruits and current students a lump sum of money?

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Por (Randal Clement) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dave Kelly is an idiot! Reading you comments made my IQ drop!
I have no issues with student atheletes getting paid a % of their jersey sales. There are no moral nor ethical issues in that at all and anyone who says there is needs to sit back and think hard about it…Maybe they’ll see Dave Kelly in the mirror and change the way they think.

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Por (Allen Brown) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Randal, there are a lot of ethical issues with paying players.

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Por (Harold Wheeler) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

The scholarship is the pay. Giving them a SMALL amount of money beyond that for a little fun or night out should be acceptable as long as all student-athl get the same amount. No jersey money. Never seen a golfer with a number on his back, so it wouldn’t be fair to him/her.
The NCAA could lighten up on the work rules a little. Being a student-athl is extremely time consuming and leaves little time for work.

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Por (Jon McKee) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

That’s why the NFL and MLB has a draft, to keep teams from monopolizing all the best new players.

Colleges don’t draft, therefore there cannot be any legitimate differential pay to a player for talent, position, skill, reputation or JERSEY SALES!

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Por (Dr. Jd) on September 17, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I spent part of the last 9 years of my life in school, half of them at USF and I was lucky enough to have my tuition paid which was a weight off. But every month I still had food and bills that needed to be paid. Often time I had 2 jobs to support myself. It was ok because beside studying and chasing after girls I had plenty of time on my hands. But the ath wake up at 5am have a full day and often times sacrifice life’s little pleasures. It sucks to get to the end of the month and have 0.21 cents in your bank account.Problem is with paying ath is once you open up that can there is no way to monitor exactly how much everyone is getting. There will be a rb at UF riding in a infinity talking about how he saved up his stipend to buy his car!

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