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Joe Maddon possesses one of the most calculating minds you’ll see in baseball. He doesn’t do anything without thorough consideration of the consequences, good or bad. So, when he actively sought Boston CF Coco Crisp in the Red Sox dugout during an eighth-inning pitching change tonight, and fervently let Crisp know exactly what he tought of a late slide into second baseman Akinori Iwamura, there was a purpose behind the public vitriol.
“I was not pleased with the slide,” Maddon said.
No kidding.
As Red Sox manager Terry Francona took advantage of the break to duck into the restroom, Maddon stood near the mound and stared into the Boston dugout.
“I was kind of looking into the dugout until I found [Crisp],” Maddon said. “And then it was a long-distance exchange.”
Crisp’s story? He was angry because of what happened on a sixth-inning stolen base. Crisp said shortstop Jason Bartlett blocked the bag with his knee, and because of that, Crisp jammed his left thumb. Crisp told reporters he warned Bartlett that he’d see him again. Bartlett wouldn’t talk about it, but Crisp would: “If you’re going to do something like that, cover the bag and take your licking,” he said.
In the eighth, Crisp came barrelling into second base on a stolen base attempt and was out. The slide was clearly late, and Crisp’s spikes appeared to connect with Iwamura’s foot before Crisp’s elbow connected with Iwamura’s ... midsection. They both went tumbling. Iwamura wasn’t hurt on the play. But he could have been, and that’s what infuriated Maddon.
“There was something that happened earlier that I believe provoked him, but you could ask [Crisp] specifically,” Maddon said. “But I totally felt there was intent to hurt one of our players. And that’s what upset me.”
Iwamura said he was “honored” that Maddon stuck up for him in such a public manner.
For his part, Maddon wouldn’t be drawn into a conversation about an ulterior motive, such as, say, lighting a fire under a team that was about to be bumped from first place after a 10-day stay at the top and had lost its slugging first baseman, Carlos Pena, to a fractured finger earlier in the day.
It was, Maddon insisted, strictly an effort to point out Crisp’s wrongdoing in a forceful way.
“There’s right and there’s wrong, and that was wrong,” Maddon said. “It was very simple to me. I don’t see it as being very complicated.”
Oh, and the Rays did lose, 5-1, to drop a half-game behind the Sox in the AL East. Tomorrow’s pregame conversations should be somewhat compelling.
Posted by JS, NJ on 06/05 at 06:52 AM
Hey TP,
Blocking 2nd base on a slide attempt really isn’t as uncommon as you think, it’s simply that the SS/2nd usually isn’t there in time to do it. Secondly, spikes up and an elbow in the boys doesn’t translate into clean, hard baseball. Running over the catcher if he’s blocking the plate IS “part of the game”, just as Crisp could’ve went in hard on Bartlett when he’s blocking 2nd. You just don’t go in spikes up and swingin’ elbows all over the place.
Posted by Tam Pabay, Orlando on 06/05 at 06:41 AM
You can’t have it both ways Maddon. In spring training, your prospect breaks a catchers wrist and it’s “part of the game” to run the catcher over. Last night Bartlett drops a knee in front of 2nd base on a steal attempt - which is about as common as a no hitter. Not only does he risk injury to himself, but to the other player. Then Crisp later slides hard into 2nd, but its wrong. Perhaps you are just trying to get your guys fired up, but if not, you need to open your eyes when these incidents occur. It’s not as one sided as they appear may appear.
Posted by Mark, Orlando on 06/05 at 12:02 AM
1. Way to go Maddon, glad something woke
him up, nice to see him show some emotion.
2. Why does Jackson turn into Dewon Brazelton on the road?
3. The Rays need to start hitting, I know they have faced good pitching, but when was the last time they scored a lot of runs, let alone get double digits in hits?
4. It would be nice to see a big inning,
actually driving in runners in scoring position.
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Posted by Jim, Keene, NH on 06/05 at 08:08 AM
I appreciate Maddon’s public display of taking on Crisp, because it shows, right or wrong, that he has his team’s back. That’s important to the morale of a team when an older guy like that gets in the grill of a player 30 years younger. That said, Bartlett is no rookie and he should know better than that. If you’ve played any ball at a level above beer league softball, you know that you just don’t drop the knee when covering a bag like that. I’m happy to see it all coming together for the Rays. They’re certainly the most athletic team I’ve seen this year and know they have the pitching and a few vets. This is from a Sox fan of 40+ years. Keep up the good work.