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Friedman: No fit to be found

Posted Jul 31, 2008 by Marc Lancaster

Updated Jul 31, 2008 at 07:05 PM

The Rays didn’t make a move before baseball’s non-waiver trade deadline passed at 4 p.m.

Executive vice president Andrew Friedman, on a 6 p.m. conference call, declined to get into even the barest of details about any of the Rays’ activities today.

The bottom line, he insisted repeatedly, was Tampa Bay didn’t find the right fit despite numerous conversations and had no problems standing pat.

“As you guys know, we’re very open-minded and aggressive, and if a deal makes sense we’ve demonstrated time and again we’re not afraid to be aggressive,” said Friedman. “At end of the day, nothing lined up for us here.”

He continued later:

“We had conversations that went right down to the wire, and whenever you have that obviously you feel like there’s a chance, but it takes two teams. By definition, trades are difficult to make. We worked extremely hard the last couple weeks to try to find a fit and improve the team, but at the end of the day we didn’t find something that lined up for us.”

Friedman described the last 60-90 minutes before the deadline as “action-packed” and indicated some proposals came “out of the blue” but nothing worked out.

“We had a lot of different conversations in the days leading up to today,” he said, “and at the end of the day we didn’t feel like things that were an option made sense for us and others that we were trying to make an option obviously didn’t make sense for the other side.”

When I asked him about standing pat while the Yankees improved and the Red Sox arguably broke even by replacing Ramirez with Bay, he broke in with a protest—“Didn’t we break even, too?” Fair enough.

Asked how he felt about the Rays’ chances of making the playoffs now compared to before the various moves were made over the past week, this was his response:

“I feel the exact same. I think our pitching and defense is going to remain our strength, but I feel like offensively … there’s a lot more to come. We have guys who have fairly established watermarks and levels of performance, and as a nine-person unit, we feel like we’re going to score more runs. We feel very strongly about that.”

His closing thoughts:

“We’re in first place on July 31st – we control our own destiny. I feel like we have the talent on hand to continue what we’ve done through the first two-thirds of the season.”

Oh, more more thing I forgot: Friedman was asked if he anticipated much movement in August, when deals can be made by passing players through waivers. It’s a rather complicated process, but handily enough, Padres exec Paul DePodesta just posted a quick rundown of the procedures on his blog.

“We didn’t necessarily leave any conversations today that we felt like would be viable in August, but you never know,” said Friedman. “Things pop up all the time and it’s an even more difficult environment to get a deal done. We’ll monitor the market very closely and follow it and be involved and what’s going on, but I would say the chances are remote.”

Updating with some comments from Pirates general manager Neal Huntington. At a press conference not long ago, Huntington had this to say about the three-way deal that sent Jason Bay to Boston, Manny Ramirez to L.A. and four young players to Pittsburgh:

“It is something that took place relatively quickly. But the groundwork had been laid a while ago. It did come together quickly in the end.”

Asked if teams were bidding against each other for Bay, this was his response:

“We had a very interesting market for all of our players and we were talking on multiple fronts all at the same time. It made life interesting and challenging. What put us in the best situation is we didn’t have to make a trade. We chose to make a trade because we felt they were the best trades for us going forward. We felt we had the right deal and moved on it.”

Reader Comments

Por (kenny spindola) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I’m sorry Andrew but you blew it, look at the Yankees and Sox and see why they are successful year in and year out, they do whatever it takes to win now. If you think that the offense is strong to carry us to the playoffs and to win playoff games on the road you are crazy… good luck, but if the Rays fall you are to blame

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Por (Matthew Cox) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Anyone notice that the Yanks and Sox were never reported to be interested in any of the players they picked up until after the Rays were linked to them? Sounds a little like they ran out and got them, at least partially, to keep them from the Rays.

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Por (eddy Favara) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Fans of the Rays own some of the responsibility for a deal not being done. Relatively poor attendance and a nixed Bayfront Stadium reflect the interest (and available revenue) of the fan base. If the the numbers were different so might be the results.
Bottom line I can live with this team as is. The future will be bright with the prospects we have. I do recognize this year may result in a very tight 3rd place finish.

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Por (Yesssir) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

bring Chuck Lamar back!!!!

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Por (Joe C) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

The Texiera deal to the Angels was a clue to me that these guys want to keep adding to the bottom line.

Why did we not offer Carlos Pena and any minor league pitcher except for Price for Texiera? Cause we don’t need a proven power hitting 1st baseman?
We are stocked with pitching 10 deep.
It’s about winning in the show-who cares how Durham is doing?

Obviously, that old adage follow the money applies to this lack of action by management in my humble opinion.

Why take on additional expenses(Salaries) when revenues are way up-new merchandising, higher attendance and the bottom line is fat.

These guys are giving us lip service and unfortunately most of us want to believe.

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Por (John R.) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Rays would rather stick with slackers like Upton then spend money.

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Por (Jack Soterakis) on July 31, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I want to congratulate Mr. Friedmanfor taking the right poistion in his effort to acquire Jason Bay.

JS

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Por (Mike) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I hope this finally proves to Rays fans that Dandy Andy has no business running the Rays. Friedman’s baseball acumen seems to be from reading “moneyball” two or three times. Cantu and Huff are having great years for other teams, but Friedman got basically nothing for dealing them, and I don’t even have to
bring up the Hamilton give away. Friedman’s inexperience and arrogance are a potent combo, he is now paralyzed by fear he will make another bad decision, so the Rays are stuck with surplus arms in the minors, lacking enough hitting at the MLB level, and at least one arm short in the current bullpen.

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Por (Olaf Berserker) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

From laughing stock to first place on August 1 in less than 3 years.  Wheeler, Garza, Bartlett, Navarro, Jackson, Zobrist.  Yeah Friedman really doen’t have a clue.  Huff is doing great on his 3rd last place team.  Where would you like Cantu to play for us ... over Aki or Longo?  Both Huff and Cantu’s attitudes stunk.  Nice to see the clueless whiny Rays fans emerge on this blog tonight.

Good job FO.  Keep up the good work and bring home a division crown boys!

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Por (Olaf Berserker) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Here’s why Cantu was traded:  Cantu, whom the Devil Rays signed out of Mexico in 1998, battled injuries in 2006 and his production tumbled to .249/.295/.404 in 413 at-bats. He was optioned to Triple-A to begin this season, as the Rays opted to go with B.J. Upton at second and Akinori Iwamura at third, and Cantu responded by demanding a trade, even threatening not to report to Durham. The 25-year-old Cantu ultimately did report, and even though he didn’t play well, he was recalled to the majors in late April. That didn’t last long, either, and Cantu was in the minors at the time of the trade. He hit his first home run of the season at any level July 25.

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Por (Olaf Berserker) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

How could I forget JP Howell (who came over in the Joey Gathright deal) and Grant Balfour (for the great Seth Mclung).  Yep, Friedman doesn’t have a clue.

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Por (Roland C Woltman) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Thank God and Theo Epstien for Jason Bay going to the Sox.  It will be great to watch him be horrid against our great lefty starters for the next few years. He can hit mediocre lefties for a .200 batting average. He’s going to help us OWN the Sox.

And, if he can’t hit lefties he would have been a horrible pick up for the Rays anyway. Why add to our only big weakness.

As for any other players, if Andy thinks they weren’t worth the price, fine. We can make a deal after the season.
But this offseason if we can pick up a Manny for 10-12 mil maybe we should consider it…

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Por (Ron) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

With Friedman not doing ANYTHING to upgrade our team at the trade deadline, now we all have to endure the Red Sux and Spankees pass us on the way to the playoffs.It seems we could’ve done SOMETHING even a Jason Werth, to upgrade the offense without giving up either, Price, Davis,or Hellickson.

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Por (Matt) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

“How could I forget JP Howell (who came over in the Joey Gathright deal) and Grant Balfour (for the great Seth Mclung).  Yep, Friedman doesn’t have a clue.”

Yep, how could you not forget that Howell almost played himself out of a job last season and that the Rays had to expose Balfour to waivers when they sent him down and NOBODY claimed him.(similar to Pena last yr) Hey, why didn’t you bring up Gomes still being on the team. Or depending on Rocco to stay healthy. Wait, there’s the greatness that is Gabe Gross and Nathan Haynes. And the 3 million dollar kicker, Cliff “I am old and can;t hit anything” Floyd.

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Por (Matt) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

On to the bullpen….......Trevor Miller blows, Jason Hammel would be lucky to be on a AAA team in another organization and Al Reyes can barely hit 85 on his fastball anymore. Wait, and ZERO up-grade… Nice.. It’s all on Friedman now….....

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Por (Matt) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

“From laughing stock to first place on August 1 in less than 3 years.  Wheeler, Garza, Bartlett, Navarro, Jackson, Zobrist.  Yeah Friedman really doen’t have a clue. ” 

Lets see, the Rays had to trade a very productive player in Ty Wigginton to get Wheeler. Garza and Bartlett came here in the Delmon Young trade(funny, the Rays are still looking for the RH RF) and NAvarro was on his what 3rd team, Jackson was out of options when he was traded here and Zobrist, really Zobrist? Well he was part of the Huff trade. Not sure if you were trying to say those were good moves or not. I’d say they were obvious moves and they got very lucky.

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Por (Chuck Lamar) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

If I didn’t know any better i’d think the Rays were in last place based on Matt’s assenine comments.  Step away from the C-pipe Matt!!

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Por (RAYSNATION) on August 01, 2008 (Suggest removal)

the lack of a upgrade at OF and in the pen reflects the fact that once again ownership doesnt want to spend money,why do u think all of our great young pitchers are in the minors still and we have guys like hammel…its called arbitration and the faster these young players get to the bigs the faster and more the rays have to pay,its nice they are in first now however as a rays fan you just cant expect it to last,and friedman should really think about how fast all the fair weather fans are going to jump off the bandwagon…

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Por (Mike) on August 02, 2008 (Suggest removal)

hey Olaf, you don’t need to give me a history lesson, I’ve been a Rays fan since the beginning. I was simply pointing out that castoffs like Huff and Cantu were having very good offensive years, while the Rays continued to stuggle offensively, and that the Rays did nothing to improve the team at the deadline and that they received basically nothing for Huff and Cantu. Zobrist, other than a few HR’s a couple of weeks ago, has been awful at the plate and in the field for the Rays during his career in St. Pete. At his age,he is not a hot prospect, as management tried to say when he was acquired.

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Por (Matt) on August 02, 2008 (Suggest removal)

To the man using the name Chuck Lamar,

I never said the Rays weren’t a good team did I? What exactly was wrong with stating the obvious, that Friedman “lucked” out on alot of his moves.(that’s part of it) The one guy was making it sound as if Friedman was god by pointing out all these"great” moves. But I guess I should put down the C-pipe and pick up whatever spiked Kool-aid you seem to be drinking, huh. I have my opinion you have yours, we’ll see in the long run who’s closer to being right… If I wrong, awesome, that means the Rays did the right thing and their future is brighter and better. God, I hope Im wrong on my assessment.

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