Por (trib hater) on August 06, 2008 (Suggest removal)

its been 24 hours since this prediction was posted. it didnt come true.

this only adds to the fact that the tribune is the worst sports media outlet out there covering the bucs.

Por (Jonny R) on August 06, 2008 (Suggest removal)

nice sources blog:
favre just went to the Jets according to ESPN

your sources stink!

Por (raw_as_fuq) on August 06, 2008 (Suggest removal)

BREAKING NEWS: A report on ESPN just said Favre got traded to the Jets! I hope its true, I dont want him here.

Por (raw_as_fuq) on August 06, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Thank God this news is OVER! Now Ira has to write about REAL news not this crap.

Por (jerry graff) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Hey nice job Tribune. “The chances of the trade unraveling are remote…”
Good sources Ira. I guess the guy at the end of the bar that you talked to was wrong.

Por (Tom) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

You get paid to do what now?

Do your bosses (the subscribers) get a refund when you screw up?

Just wondering if there is such a thing as accountability in journalism….

Por (Dan) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE??? It has no author listed and is wrong, I want to sue for false pretense and I want them to pay for my custom jersey I ordered.

Por (Wake Up) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

“Check the career stats and get back to me…and not just the INT’s. Safe QBs who manage games don’t win championships unless you have the Ravens defense of 2000 or the Buc’s in 2002.”

-  Mark Rodriguez, Tampa on 08/06 at 07:55 PM

Really? .. huh. Brett Favre hasn’t won championship"S” either - he’s won 1 Super Bowl. Not Super Bowl"S”.

Por (Wake Up) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Seems to me some guy named Peyton Manning has never thrown more INT’s than TD’s except for his rookie year and he’s won just as many SuperBowls as Brett Favre. When’s the last time you saw Peyton Manning throw into triple coverage or make a completely asinine decision that cost his team in the playoffs as many times as Favre has. Wouldn’t you say that Manning is a “manager” of games? He’s not a gunslinger - he doesn’t run around like a dog loose on the field and just throw the ball up for grabs.

Por (Wake Up) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

What about Tom Brady? He’s pretty good “manager” of games, isn’t he? He’s not a gunslinger that throws for more INT’s than TD’s ... ever. He’s never thrown more than 14 INT’s in a season - you know how many times Favre has thrown 14 or more INT’s in a season? 13 times.

Some guy named Troy Aikman? How many Super Bowls did he win again? You realize the most yards he ever threw for in a season was 3,445 in 1992 .. and he only threw for more than 3,000 yards 5 times in 12 years? He only had 1 season in which he threw for more than 20 TD’s and 10 seasons in which he threw for less than 19. He was pretty good at “manager” of games, wasn’t he?

Por (Wake Up) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Um, Joe Montana anyone? Only once in 15 years did he throw more than 13 INT’s in a season and he never threw more INT’s than TD’s in a year. He never threw for more than 4,000 yards. He threw for more than 3,200 yards 7 times in 15 years. He only threw for more than 20 TD’s in a year 6 times. Wasn’t he a pretty good “manager” of games? Was he a gunslinger like Favre? 

Favre has 5 years of throwing 20+ INT’s. The Bucs don’t need that kind of crap - even Derrick Brooks said indirectly that they don’t need “unnecessary” turnovers this year ... read between the lines on that one and get over your man crush on Favre.

Por (Sean Fowler) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Student Journalists take note of the Favre fiasco; it’s the perfect example of how NOT to report a story.  Conjecture, speculation, and unsubstantiated 3rd party reports were rampant throughout the Favre news cycle, and they reached epic proportions when the Trib reported that Favre was going to be a Buccaneer.  What once was a credible newspaper, bowed under the weight of the story and resorted to the sensationalism normally reserved for the Enquirer.  Because of this the Trib has lost a reader and maybe even more importantly, it’s integrity.

Por (Brian Rankin) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

With any luck, Brett won’t screw this up & report to NY.  HOPEFULLY, the media in Tampa will let this die and not bother Mr Gruden with a hole lot of stupid “what if” questions and let him get on with preparing our team for the season ahead.  I’m glad Brett didn’t come here & I’m glad nobody on our team got SOLD OUT on a whim for the thought of a possibility to win a quick superbowl.  The thing that seems to be missing from sports these days is something called LOYALTY!  Our team has a enough good QB’s already!  Develope them properly & they will get the job done.

Por (Walter) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

HA HA!

Por (Sweet Lou) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Methinks the Boston Herald’s John Tomase should work at this fine publication.

Por (Holy Crap) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Just wanted to thank the Tampa Tribune for such stellar coverage of this story.  I mean seriously are you kidding me!?  You guys could not have been further away from the real outcome of this story.  Next time, learn to bite your tongue until you have the real facts or find better sources.  Way to go to let down a community and misinform an entire nation.

Por (Ray Buc) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Good job Ira. Back to the daily grind of hating Gruden and Allen. Your credibility is shot forever.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

To Wake Up Tampa:
Respond to the comment.  How many game managers have won Superbowls other than Dilfer in 2000 and Johnson in 2002?  Are you suggesting that Montana was a game manager???  Really?  Ever heard of the West Coast offense?  He didn’t have gaudy numbers because they ran a short passing game, and ran the ball.  But Montana was not a game manager.  He is arguably the best QB of all time. 

Few QB’s have ever won a single Superbowl, let-alone multiple championships.  Elway threw his share of INT’s as did Bradshaw.  If you throw the ball downfield, you will have INT’s.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Brady, Manning, and Montana are not game managers.  Check Rothlesburger in his rookie year.  Throwing the ball 12-18 times per game with nothing over 10 yards.  Now check Garcia’s stats.  Game Manager = a QB that can’t win the game for you by themselves.

Being efficient doesn’t make you a game manager.  The QB’s you mention are in great systems, with great talent, and are, themselves, great….sure Favre has thrown more INTs than any of them, but he’s thrown more TD’s, too.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

And finally Wake Up Tampa, it appears you are confusing Favre for Jeff George, “he doesn’t run around like a dog loose on the field and just throw the ball up for grabs.” 

Are you serious???  That’s what Favre has done for 16 years?  No man crush, Wake Up, the debate was Garcia vs. Favre. Not on whether Favre is better than Manning, Montana, Brady, or your Mom (I heard he can really sling it!).

Go and post on your favorite website www.ihatefavresguts.com.  This forum was to debate whether Favre made the Buc’s a better team. And he would have.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

And finally Wake Up Tampa, it appears you are confusing Favre for Jeff George, “he doesn’t run around like a dog loose on the field and just throw the ball up for grabs.” 

Are you serious???  That’s what Favre has done for 16 years?  No man crush, Wake Up, the debate was Garcia vs. Favre. Not on whether Favre is better than Manning, Montana, Brady, or your Mom (I heard she can really sling it!).

Go and post on your favorite website www.ihatefavresguts.com.  This forum was to debate whether Favre made the Buc’s a better team. And he would have.

Por (Knights86) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

No where did I ever state that Garcia was a better QB than Favre, or disparage what Favre accomplished in Green Bay.  But Favre is not a good fit in Tampa’s system, and thankfully he is not here.

As for anyone who somehow thinks Favre would mentor young QBs, go back to screaming for more Mike Alstott in the offense and leave football talk to the grown ups.

The debate for me was NEVER just a Garcia vs Favre debate, but debate of over whether Favre made this a better team, not just this year, but 2 or three years from now.  And his constant retirement waffling along with the price the team would have paid for him in draft picks and salary cap money didn’t make sense.  Ask a Patriot fan, there is no such thing as a guaranteed SB win.

Por (Knights86) on August 07, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I think our team has a decent shot at a SB victory this year, and will continue to stay competitive and have a shot for years to come because the organization has drafted well and added good free agents, as well as managing the salary cap.  I’d rather see big money spent on a rookie or younger QB who will play multiple seasons here.  The talent here is pretty good, it’s a matter of luck, health, and execution from that point.

Mark, I look forward to seeing you post excuses for Favre when he is an unmitigated disaster in New York and leaves that mess of a franchise in a bigger mess when he re-retires during or after this season.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 08, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Knights, I’m far from a Favre apologist and now that he isn’t in Tampa, my interest will be casual. If he flops, I’ll leave it to you to pound your chest and declare to the world that your NFL Crystal Ball was right, yet again.  The problem is the national sports media, NFL Analysts, GM’s, coaches, and, of course, yours truly, believe Favre is a better option than Garcia, Pennington, Rodgers, and about 25 other QB’s who currently have starting jobs.

And the Bucs are not a Superbowl contending team with Garcia.  Period.  Take off your Pewter colored glasses and stop being a homer.  A playoff team, possibly, but Superbowl contender?  Seriously?  It’s comments like that, that kill your credibility.

Por (Mark Rodriguez) on August 08, 2008 (Suggest removal)

And as for draft picks and moves made by Gruden and Allen, I would rank them as poor, and that’s being kind.  We can talk specifics if you like, Knights, but I would say the overall team record, free agent acquasitions that didn’t play a snap, and talented players we have lost, speak for themselves.