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Bucs, Raiders Talking Trade

Posted Apr 17, 2007 by Katherine Smith

Updated Apr 17, 2007 at 10:46 AM

How bad do the Bucs want Calvin Johnson? So much so, General Manager Bruce Allen is talking with his former employer Al Davis about a possible trade.

According to Yahoo Sports, the Bucs and the Oakland Raiders owner have been discussing a trade for the Raiders No. 1 pick. It would be a costly deal for Tampa Bay, maybe even all of their first four picks.

Knowing how much Davis got for Coach Jon Gruden when Tampa Bay made the deal for him in 2002 (two first round and two second round picks), it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Davis is asking for a lot. And given Johnson’s credentials and potential for greatness, it wouldn’t be far fetched to believe the Bucs would give up all of their first day picks for him.

A contingency of Bucs personnel and players, including quarterback Chris Simms, traveled to Atlanta last Friday for the former Georgia Tech receiver’s workout.

If the Bucs do pull off this trade, it will become evident the team is in win now or else mode. Because why else would they mortgage the future by giving up all those picks for one player? If they don’t, perhaps the team learned its lesson about how difficult it is to sustain a playoff-caliber team without draft picks.

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Por (Kevin C,Egbert) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Give AL Davis anything he wants,Johnson is that good.Bank on it1111111111111

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Por (David Sheppard) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Oakland Raiders Owner Al Davis, appears to be a man who does not mind being at the bottom of the pack in order to get good draft picks, which he could sell later for a huge profit.

I would rather see Allen and Gruden working for another franchise, than allowing them to squander the teams future on this attempt to save their jobs.

It would be wonderful to get Calvin Johnson, but not if the cost is too high.

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Por (jose del valle) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

THIS OF COURSE IS A ATTEMPT TO SELL PAPERS< OR THE GLAZERS SHOULD SELL THE TEAM IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BUCS.

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Por (Dennis Jones) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

it would be great to get calvin johnson if we didnt have to trade up.. i wouldnt want the bucs to give up 4 picks to move up .. we finally got the cap room and i think we can really get some good players with our picks ..there is enough talent at both dline and dback to get a quality player in the 2nd and 3rd round ..and if calvin johnson is already picked before we pick then i think we should address the dline or safety ..personally i like amobi okoye and i think laron landry would be a great player ..

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Por (Christopher Jones) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

I’m sorry Mrs. Smith, but your story is what’s far fetched.  Gruden and Allen are not interested in selling the future of the team…  their intention is to keep their jobs and stay here for years to come.  They know what it’s like to operate on fewer draft picks. 

Even if G/A were mad enough to try it, you would have to think the Glaziers would step in and protect their investment.

What makes you think the Raiders would demand so much?  All they would loose is 3 draft spots They would most likely still be able to get one of the top prospects.  Perhaps a deal is being worked out for something much less, like one 2nd or 3rd rounder.

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Por (David Gardner) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

As a fan of the bucs, I can’t stand to see us give up 3 bodies for just 1. We could have players like Quentin Moses, Eric Weddle, Steve Smith, Amobi Okoye, or any amount of high quality players with those picks! We got old fast by giving up picks, we cannot honestly think about doing it again!

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Por (bill Livingston) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

This has not been reported on fox or espn as far as ive heard. The only move that i’ve heard is trading with detroit. I this this report is DO DO.

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Por (Fred Sutter) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

If this team squanders away even two of their top three draft choices for one wide receiver, i’m personnally going drive to One Buc and #####-slap the stupidity right out of Allen, Gruden, and Malcolm! I’m going to have to slap pretty hard though!

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Por (Scott Campbell) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

If the Bucs trade up at all Mr. Allen and Mr. Gruden should be shown the front door to the unemployment line. Yes CJ is very good, but if they do not get him there is enough talent in the draft. Even if they traded down to acquire more picks would be better than trading up.

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Por (vern garrett) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

i dont know bruce allen still works for the raiders

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Por (Calvin Johnson) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Just wanted to let everyone know in Tampa, I really look foward to playing for you’ll and really think I fit like a shoe. I’ve talked to both Lane Kiffin and John Gruden in the past few days and it looks like a trade up will occur. I can promise you that even though the Buccaneers will be losing a few pics down the road because of this trade up, I will personally make up for this and play everyday to win.

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Por (jeff Baltozer) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

you have got to be kidding?  giving up the draft choices for gruden was insane, if they give up four, yes four draft choices for johnson, then gruden and company should be terminated before the season even begins.  are they so afraid that they will lose their jobs, that they will create a long term disaster?  if so, it is sad and pathetic.  gee, it wasn’t that long ago that Mike Ditka gave away his draft for one player and gee, how to say this, it didn’t work then and it won’t work now.  if gruden and his power broker do this madness, then it is time that they walk the plank.

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Por (Brent Wyatt) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Gruden should watch his back if he makes this move. There is no way people will let this happen. Gruden is and idiot. It took a couple of years to reveal itself. The offensive guru can’t get the Bucs more than 13 points per game. He is also a child when it comes to evaluating talent as well. If Glazers allow the Bucs to make stupid moves they should be held accountable as well.. Burn your tickets….

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Por (Bill Hoffman) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

This story reeks of sensationalism!  I agree with Christopher Jones on this in that Ms. Smith’s story is far-fetched.  Do you really think the Bucs will give all their first day picks to Oakland?  I can’t believe that.  What’s more likely assuming some of the story is true is a trade involving a swap of picks plus a player or two.

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Por (John Prowell) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

I think someone writing the story is drinking too much Georgia Peach Schnaupps - Gruden can’t be as stupid as Ditka was with Williams. CJ is going to have a clean uniform all year unless they have a line that can protect the QB.

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Por (julian fullmer) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

why can’t we trade with detroit give them greg spires and give us the number two pick would be a heck of alot cheaper I am sure simeon would play for marinelli that might be somthing we can think about as well but also let us move up for the second round well definately have some play then or trade jake plummer and one of our starters for there second round pick and have three picks that round screw the raiders don’t do business with them

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Por (Casey Stevens) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

It is beyond far fetched that the Bucs would give up all of their Day 1 picks to move up three positions to No. 1 overall.  In fact, it would surpass the Vikings/Cowboys Herschel Walker trade as the worst in NFL history.  Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden have already caused most of the Bucs’ faithful to seriously question their personnel decisions.  By pulling the trigger on a ridiculous trade like the one you describe, they will erase all doubts as to their complete ineptitude.

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Por (Ryan Blanco) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

CJ will be a great receiver, but this team has many holes.  If we mortgage our entire first day, this team will be in trouble for years to come.

The picks we gave up for Gruden are part of the reason we lack talent right now.

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Por (Matt Pipes) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Our offense is not 1 player away from being good (let alone great) and our defense is teetering on being bad.  Giving up even 1 second round choice for CJ is too much for the Bucs.  We need youth and lots of it.  Besides, how great would it be to land Gaines Adam at 4, a solid DT with our first 2nd and a solid safety with our other #2?  We could then grab a WR with our third rounder; although I’m hoping Marcus Thomas slips that far because of character problems and the Bucs are able to grab him there.  We could use 2 solid DTs for the rotation.

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Por (Keith Williams) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

This sounds like Jon Gruden mis-information. The Glazers would veto this deal if their consultants are awake as this would de-value the team. The offense needs a line that will help the running game and the passing game with less skill at the skill positions. Do not beleive anthing from the mouth of any GM or Head Coach untill the picks are made- all is bull spit and psychology from them till then.

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Por (James R. Kinzer) on April 17, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Sounds like there may be some “Hate and Discontent” in Buc Land!  There may be a need for the Bucs to increase their security as soon as possible!!!!!

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Por (john eagan) on April 18, 2007 (Suggest removal)

lets see 1) we gave oak-town 4 picks 2)we won the superbowl 3)oakland has barely won 20 games in 5 years with those 4 picks. 4) the draft is a crap shot 5) players like CJ are once in a life time 6) we have 9 qb’s and one football trade a few of them for extra picks. bottomline….....draft calvin! p.s. we have one of there picks in phillip b!

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Por (ray schroeder) on April 18, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Here we go again!  We gave away the draft choices for GRUDEN and have moaned and groaned since then about the future.  Does this DO OR DIE effort help for the future?  I don’t believe so.  Not one palyer can guarantee playoffs or Super Bowl when ther are so many holes to be filled.  As I have stated before, OWNERSHIP, please get involved NOW, so we don’t suffer when Gruden and Allen are no longer in Tampa.

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Por (Steven Fink) on April 18, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Katherine…that is just a dumb comment.  There is no way the the Bucs will give up all of there first day picks.  C’mon, you’re just stiring thimgs up.  Be realistic.

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Por (Steven Fink) on April 18, 2007 (Suggest removal)

Another thing…The Bucs gave up a lot to get Gruden because the ownership had egg on its face because of the Parcells debactle.  I use to think you knew what you were talking about.  Everytime I read this comment of yours I realize you have no clue.  Get real.  Stop trying to be edgy.

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