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Boyle-ing over for Lightning?

Posted Jul 3, 2008 by Erik Erlendsson

Updated Jul 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM

These Dan Boyle rumors just won’t go away, folks. And if there’s anything I’ve learned in the short term with the new Lightning regime in charge, it’s that where there is smoke, there is generally fire. And when it comes to the plight of Dan Boyle in recent days, there’s enough smoke to snuff out the sun at the equator.

The latest comes from Darren Dreger at TSN stating that Lightning officials have contacted Boyle’s camp to give them a heads up that a trade may be in the works. Dreger also states that Boyle may have already been contacted to waive his no-trade clause.

Now, Boyle holds the ultimate trump card here. He just recently got married to a Tampa-area woman, the couple is expecting their first child and he is in the process of building a new house in the area. Doesn’t sound like the workings of somebody who is overly eager to relinquish his rights to stay in Tampa for the next six years (and beyond for that matter).

Now I wish I could sit here at this late hour after so many words have already been typed on this blog (see below) in the past four days and say that there is nothing to this report. But I can’t say either way. I haven’t received any kind of denial from anybody recently, either on or off the record. At the same time, I haven’t heard anybody say that this is in the works. Boyle hasn’t returned a text or voice message left for him. And his agent, George Bazos, is saying to the Canadian Press that Boyle absolutely wants to stay in Tampa, but isn’t indicating as to whether his client would be willing to waive his no-trade.

As I wrote earlier, the more I hear, the more I begin to believe what I hear. There’s just too much of this circulating, just as we heard when the Brad Richards rumors began to surface in February at the general manager’s meetings.

And, just as I wrote earlier, I think it would be a big mistake to move Boyle. You just can’t replace his skill set and the dimension he brings to the team. The team that keeps coming up in rumors is Ottawa, which is of course Boyle’s hometown. The one name that has been mentioned in more than one circle coming in return is Antoine Vermette, to which I say, WHAT???? You are going to offer one of the top defensemen in the game for Antoine freaking Vermette? Another forward? I sure hope that’s not true. If Ottawa is the team they are serious about, then Andrej Meszaros needs to be ONE of the players coming back in return. And while we’re at it, let’s talk about Chris Kelly, or Mike Fisher coming back the other way. And for good measure, let’s make sure a high draft pick returns as well.

Otherwise, keep Boyle. He means a lot to this team.

Look, Oren Koules and Len Barrie have done a terrific job in reshaping the roster to this point. They have put togehter a game plan and made it work. And I understand that with all the payroll that has been added in the past couple of days, they probably feel some of it needs to be pared back - no, it’s more like they DO feel it needs to come down - and Boyle is the easy target because of his $6.66 million annual salary for the next six years.

But you just don’t make that move only to shed payroll. If the move needs to be made, do it for hockey reasons and bring back players that are going to help your team now. Do it for a younger defensemen, do it for two young defensemen. But don’t do it just because you’re not happy with the salary figure you agreed to less than five months ago.

Reader Comments

Por (steve) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Boyle… USE THAT DAMN NO TRADE CLAUSE… we need you buddy

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Por (Jordan G) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I’m hearing that it may be a 3 team trade. Boyle going to Ottawa, Vermette going to Columbus, and 2 defensemen, whos names escape me, coming to Tampa….

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Por (Kevin G) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Huge mistake if he’s traded. Huge. Will be the worst thing the Lightning have done if he’s traded. Bad idea all the way. Figure out something else to free up some money, but you can’t get rid of Boyle - it’s idiotic. Trade Kuba before Dan.

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Por (Mike Joyce) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Bye bye Danny Boy.  Enjoy the cold winters in Ottawa.

If we don’t get some defensive strength in return, it isn’t much of a trade.  We are in good shape for forwards and goal.  To not improve the defense with the trade bait that you have is nuts.  With the smart moves made to date, I have to have confidence that the next one will improve the defense.  Getting rid of Boyle and Kuba would immediately help the defense.

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Por (Leanmean43) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Boyle isn’t going anywhere, it makes absolutely no sense to trade him!  There is absolutely NOBODY who rushes the puck like Dan Boyle in the league, he makes great first passes, and he controls the tempo of the game. According to the St. Pete times Boyle’s agent said, “It’s not their (ownership) intention to move Dan. They’re going to try to work out whatever they need to work out in other ways.” 

We have an overabundance of forwards it only makes sense that they are going to move a few of them.  Canada is dreaming and they’re just trying to create a story. They see we are up against the cap and Boyle has a high salary, so they immediately assume it’s him that will be traded.

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Por (Mike Joyce) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Wake up and drink the coffee instead of the kool aid.  The new owners have strengthened the offense and the goal tending.  Now, they are turning their attention to the defense, where the two biggest weak spots are Boyle and Kuba.  Neither has a clue about playing defense.

Richards was a weak spot on offense and they moved him.  What on earth makes you think that they won’t correct the defensive problem, when they’ve already addressed all other areas.  The two biggest problems have the biggest cap hits, so they cure two problems with the same solution.

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Por (Dustin Keene) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

The new owners have done a phenomenal job with all of the new additions to this hockey organization so far. They’ve taken 15 big steps in the right direction… With the current line up we have now, I could easily see us contending for the Eastern Conference’s number 1 spot.. Having said that trading Danny Boyle would be taking 20 MUCH bigger steps back… If there is any defenseman you are going to trade it has to be Kuba. Boyle has heart, guts, smarts and the ability to do what no other defenseman in the league does as good as him, move the puck. If I were Feaster I would be STEAMING right now… He put in a lot of effort and sacrificed Brad Richards to keep Boyle… This is not good, not good at all…

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Por (David Avery) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Brad Richards was a weak spot on offense?

Are you serious?

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Por (Adam) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

For anyone who thinks it is a big mistake to get rid of Boyle needs to start followinganother sport!  Everyone in this area talks about the big three.  Well, new ownership has sent the first two parts of the big three packing in Richards and Torts, now it is time to send the last part away in Boyle. The only mistake is if we do not get defencemen in return.  Good riddance Boyle and lets hope you play just as poor D for your new team as you did for us.

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Por (Cookie) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dustin, I agree with you 100%.  New ownership told season ticket holders Boyle was not going anywhere.  If they lie about that , what else did they lie about?  EE, thanks for doing a yeoman’s job in keeping us updated. Sleep for you, looks out of the picture with this new regime.  Be careful you might be traded for a cub reporter and a journalism student in ‘09 !!!

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Por (Goalman) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

We don’t need Dan Boyle for his defense. He is part of our offense and all of you hockey “experts” should know that. Stay at home defenseman are much easier to obtain than a rushing defenseman.Mike, you’ve had a h—don for Dan for a long time. Get over it. He’s worth every penny we pay him. Say goodbye to Kuba, Ward, Gratton, Ouellet,Darche,,Roy,Karllson,Lukowich,
but don’t be crazy and get rid of a special player like Dan.

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Por (Adam) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Goalman, you say Boyle is worth every penny he is getting.  Then let’s take money away from him for every turnover he commits and cheap goal is line allows.  With the new aquisitions we have enough offense and do not need Boyle to help in that aspect.  If we needed that then make him a forward.

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Por (Chris) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Will the league allow the team to play with 20 fwds on the bench and no defensemen? Dan plays the most minutes on the ice..including special teams..how you going to replace that????

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Por (Goalman) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Adam,
You still don’t get it. The front guys need someone to get them the puck. Just look at the trouble we had coming out of our zone when Boyle was hurt last year. To use a well worn cliche, Boyle is the engine that makes our machine go.I guess you would rather have Lukowich or Lundin or Ranger bringing the puck up the ice. PLEASE,learn a little about how the game is played and stop being jealous of the money Boyle gets.

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Por (Bill) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

“Dustin, I agree with you 100%.  New ownership told season ticket holders Boyle was not going anywhere.  If they lie about that , what else did they lie about?  EE, thanks for doing a yeoman’s job in keeping us updated. Sleep for you, looks out of the picture with this new regime.  Be careful you might be traded for a cub reporter and a journalism student in ‘09 !!! “

I am a season ticket holder since the drop of the puck and I have never heard them say this. I was even at there when Koules and Barrie were introduced to us. So when did this conversation take place?

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Por (David Brown) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

you know sitting here thinking maybe Dan felt since the team had no offense last season he had to try it himself to get things motivated with his team mates,now that they have offensive players for this upcoming season he can show all you non believers what a hell of a defensive player he really is and if you all recall he had a hell of a season prior to last season,i say keep him

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Por (Geografer) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Also, what does that say to your players? You were very involved in signing this guy just a few months ago, and giving him a no-trade clause, and just like that - before he even had a chance to play one game under his new contract you ask him to waive his no-trade clause?? Ever hear of a thing called Karma?
There is no way, no matter the players and/or picks that would come with this, that Tampa doesn’t lose in this trade. So much for the chance to go from worst to first (or at least deep into the playoffs) this year.

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Por (Geografer) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

They do this and they undo EVERYTHING they have done so far and completely lose many a fan. This is nuts.
I hope that no matter what Danny says NO to any trade anywhere!
Need to clear cap space? Trade Kuba (please), Ward (though I really like this guy) maybe even Lukowich but we need Danny.
I know there are folks who don’t like him but like it or not you hear every team talk about needing a puck moving d-man and how they are so few to be had - and Boyle is one of the, if not the, best in the game at doing this. This is really like trading away Stamkos before he even plays - you can’t judge him by last year.

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Por (victoria) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This is absolutely absurd. We don’t have a strong defense and to trade away a strong defensemen is absolutely freaking nuts. Ranger and O’brien are young, Kuba stinks, Smaby is not ready which leaves 2nd year Lundin and Vet Lukowich. Oh and Artyukin if he ever gets his crap fixed. Hello we cannot win a hockey game without defense. What the heck are you crazy owners thinking?

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Por (Seth C) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Boyle’s agent has said that his client has no intention of waving his no-trade clause, even for a move to Ottawa. He also said that ownership has told him that there is no truth to the rumors.

If either is true, all the better for the fans and the team. There are better places to dump salaries (Jokinen—good, but not worth nearly 2M—Kuba, even Oullet if they’re desperate, but I think he’s going to develop into a damn fine player).

Personally, I’d rather see St. Louis moved before Boyle (though obviously I wouldn’t want that either)

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Por (BOLTS RULE !!!!) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Dont be shocked if this is all just a rumor to hide another trade (for someone other than Boyle) going on that will be revealed later. With this new ownership, they have been exactly what they said they would be “shockingly aggressive”.

I wouldnt be to surprised if this is the case, I would hate to lose Boyle, but 6.6 mil is alot for one defensemen, you could put two good defensemen on the ice for 2 mil each and still have enough extra room for the salary cap, plus if you read about alot of the offensive players they have signed, all remarks are saying they get back and play good defense.

I wouldnt mind if Kuba got traded for a couple of decent defenders in the 1 mil range, to go with Boyle and some of the younger guys.

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Por (BOLTS RULE !!!!) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

just for info Boyle is the only one with a No trade clause on the defense
that kind of makes you wonder about all of this

http://www.nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm#list

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Por (Cookie) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Bill you’re right. Koules said” Of the top 5 or 6 free agents there is only 1 we will not be going after and that’s because he is a puck moving defenseman and we think we have the best.” Fool that I am, I along with many other season ticket holders, took that as an endorsement of Dan.  Yesterday’s quote in Trib"I think that Dan Boyle is probably the best puck moving defenseman in the league.” As a fan, I want to keep the best on my team!

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Por (Cookie) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Koules and Melrose were also on Steve Duemig’s show. Koules once again praised Boyle and tried to quell the rumors that were flying.  Melrose repeated his comment about planning on playing Dan for 25 minutes each game.  When such praise is given out, it sure does not come across as “Please pack your bags!”

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Por (Adam) on July 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Goalman- I gaurantee you I know more about hokey then any of you Boyle homers.  Did you attend any games last year?  I was at about 90% of them and believe me, Boyle did not do a good job of getting the puck to the offense.  There were way too many turnovers from him that led to easy goals you same people want to blame on the goaltending.  Everyone of you making comments about how great Boyle is really does not understand blueline play what so ever!

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