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Tribune photo by COLIN HACKLEY
Sen. Daniel Webster, R-Winter Garden, left,
looks at a vote board as his bill is defeated.
The Florida Senate has rejected an effort to require women to have an ultrasound and view the image of the fetus before having an abortion.
The vote was 20-20 after an hour of emotional debate, meaning that unless a senator asks for the issue to be reconsidered, it is dead for this year’s legislative session. The measure had already passed out of the House.
The controversial abortion bill was a signature issue of Sen. Daniel Webster, R-Winter Garden, a conservative stalwart who is ending a 28-year legislative career. Republicans outnumber Democrats 26-14 in the upper chamber, but seven GOP senators voted against the bill. One Democrat voted “yes.”
“We have before us an opportunity to speak out for the women of this state who have been granted constitutionally the right to have an abortion,” said Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville. “Make no bones about it, what we’re asking women to do is an impediment to that right. Because we’re hopeful that by making them take the sonogram, by making them sign a sheet, by making them hear or see, that they are somehow going to be somewhat less inclined to have the abortion. Personally, I don’t think that’s our right.”
I’m conservative at heart and very much believe abortion is murder—I don’t care how some may twist it and use words like “choice” and “women’s rights”. There is no reason to believe that a bill like this will change the hearts of certain people who have convinced themselves that abortion is OK. Tampa is loaded with minitries that can help women understand that abortion has serious consequences, and that there are alternatives. Instead of hoping state and federal legislation will somehow end this injustice, put down the remote control and spend some time, money and effort into finding out about the people and places that are making a difference.
So gas prices and the housing market are more important than a human life? This is about LIFE AND DEATH, those two issues are not. And to another previous comment about telling a woman what to do with her body. Getting pregnant is not a right, it’s a responsibility. When you get pregnant your body is not your own, you SHARE it with another body who depends on you take care of it. What about the choice of the baby? That’s right, you are taking away the choice of somebody else. This is the most selfish issue on the side of Pro-Abortion. Rape, incest, and the mother’s health are only 1% out of 1.3 million abortions. What about the other 99%?
FINALLY!!! Some common sense coming from the state capital. It is about time somebody made the correct deciesion and not tell a women what she can do with her body. For all of you that are anti abortion. It is time to back up and leave. I am tired of you clogging up the legestlation around here with your Taliban ways. The world population is exploding. If you want to save someone. Try adopting children from countries that can’t feed them. Let’s see how Christian all of you really are.
Nice “subliminal” headline TBO. You get more sensational by the day. Are you sure you’re not affiliated with FOX news?
And just who is going to adopt these babies, pray tell? Do you know how many children in this country are still waiting in foster homes for adoption?
And what if this child might come from incest (look at the news from Austria) or rape? We are not “pathetic” as one woman wrote. We are for the rights of women to make an intelligent decision, hopefully in consultation with relatives and clergy and the doctor.
The bill requiring this ultrasound, if it has been passed and signed, would probably have been declared unconstitutional.
I applaud the decision to kill the bill. What if the woman had a serious health condition or was a victim of rape and became pregnant? There are too many other priorities like the high cost of gasoline and the housing situation that should be first and foremost on the list for our government to address.
For those of you talking about God judging. Why not let God do the judging and you stay out of it. And if you convince some young mom to put the baby up for adoption, you should be the first on the list to adopt. I appreciate this decision the Senate made. Because, it’s always been primarily men who are deciding what a woman can do with her body and her child. I think men’s place is to support whatever the woman chooses. And if abortion is the wrong choice, let God deal with it. Oh, and by the way, not everyone believes in God. At the rate this country is going, we will soon be under the American Taliban.
What happen to Thou Shalt Not Kill?
This is what is happening to these babies. It is such a shame that women have come so low to be able to kill their own babies. Just remember we all have to stand in front of out maker for our judgement, and boy am I glad that I an not going to have to tell the Lord why I felt I had to kill my baby.
I pray that one day someone will stand up and stop this horrible thing.
To those who voted against the ultra sound, aren’t glad your mother was pro-life.
You were voted in because of your potential for doing good.
To bad for you.
I have just emailed Sen. Crist of my dislike for his staunch conservatism and Republican-ism ways. He does NOT speak for my and my friends. He supported the so called Evolution/Creationism act and now the ultrasound requirement for women contemplating an abortion. Such an act would most surely have been ruled unconstitutional. Can’t these legislators deal with more substantive matters in the waning days of this inept legislative session?
Women have the right to choose. For the government to step in - and who is going to pay for these ultrasounds? - is perfectly ridiculous. It takes two to tango - what do they plan to do to the fathers?
So they are afraid to face the reality that this fetus they are about to abort is a real live person. Don’t let them face reality and it is easier to take that step. Rights you say. What about the rights of that fetus. Just because it can’t speak doesn’t mean it doesn’t have rights. I feel they should have to face reality. This is a person they are about to dispose of to make their life more convienient.
Why do people always associate Abortion with the mother’s rights? What about the baby’s rights? The mother should absolutely surrender to an ultrasound. This would save many babies, therefore, adults. She can have the baby and put the child up for adoption if she wants to - THAT is her right. Why are we murderers? Aren’t you glad YOUR mother didn’t “exercise HER rights to kill you?”
Amazing, just to think that if the mother of that child sees her baby, she might change her mind!! Well is that not the purpose behind them doing it? You guys are pathetic!!!! One day you will stand before God and be held accountable for your actions. The girl can always give the baby up for adoption, there’s always another choice other than killing that baby! Woe to you who sheds innocent blood!.
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Posted by IrIs Fleat, Tampa on 05/01 at 07:39 PM
My mother had a dozen miscarriages,after having me,she finally had my baby brother 11 years latter. They did not have ultrasound then but was thrilled to finally have a son for my father. But my mother was a very wise woman,she would have disowned me if I was unwed and pregnant,especially underage,as my mother would say children having babies. Now drugs are so prevelant,that nobody wants to adopt addicted babies that will grow up addicted. Women like fun and games,but not at the cost of getting pregnant 3 to 4 times a year. Babies are still found in garbage cans and empty fields. Does having an ultrasound really save lives of an unwanted baby.