Por (Dorothy Stabler) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Evolutionists are militant in promoting their secular religion and agenda. They certainly do not believe in academic freedom. Here are some of their their from my U of FL college textbook. “We owe our lungs to the happy accident that some Devonian fishes developed them.”  Speaking of our ear bones, “First, their earlier roles happened, quite incidentally, to bring them into close proximity to a pressure-sensitive organ (the future inner ear) in the brain case. While functioning in their former capacity of jaw components, the bones happened willy-nlly, to transmit sound waves to this organ.”  Can you believe that this intolerant group of radicals want our teachers to teach this stuff!

Por (Robin Brown) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Excellent!  Real science is analyzing all views before drawing a conclusion.  Darwin himself would encourage bringing in everything there is on this topic if he were here today.  What’s the fear in examining all the evidence?
This is “true” science.  It’s about time.

Por (LORRA wilson) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

anyone who thinks, everything got here in a big bang is wrong, there is a divine being.if evolution is going to be taught to my child, i will home school her….....

Por (Denny Crane) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Well, she’s at it again, trying to push her religious views on everyone else. I believe in God and don’t believe in evolution however I don’t push my views on everyone else. Darwin would probably agree that storms is the missing link.

Por (Bob Kwietkowski) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

I don’t think anyone has a problem with scientific information being presented in a science class.  Everyone should have a problem with someone who has an ulterior motive to misrepresent religion based information as scientific data.  Both topics have an important place in a child’s education but both do not belong in the same class.  Sociology is one subject, science another.  I find Ms. Storm’s ethics and motives questionable on this matter.

Por (Chellie Oleson) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

With Florida constantly ranked in the bottom third of all states in Education (http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm), bills like this one only continue to embarrass us before the whole nation.  Could our representatives focus on getting funding into schools, and less on curriculum?  That would be a nice change.

Por (Sandy Oleesky) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Re: Teaching intelligent design (creationism) in schools.
Science is a philosophy of discovery!
Intelligent design is a philosophy of ignorance!
You cannot build a program on the assumption that nobody is smart enough to figure out the answer to a problem.

Por (fred llana) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Storms reminds me of a WWF wrestler. Bombastic and full of fertilizer. I believe that those persons who wish to teach creationism to their children should have every right to do so. At their own expense, they can chose to send their children to private,christian schools if they don’t like the public schools curriculm.

Por (Jon Ericson) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

if I read this right she signed a bill allowing teachers to give evidence that disproves the science of evolution?!? is that right? if so I see no problem here, because it would be impossible to disprove the already proven. I doon’t need the spagetti monster in my childrens classroom filliing their heads with Junk that is based on a persons personal beliefs. there is a seperation of church and state for a reason and here is another Phsycho Christian trying to force her beliefs on the rest of us! no thanks ms. Storms, My children have grown out of the imaginary friend stage and don’t need any more!!!

Por (Bill Godwin) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

As long as the schools can teach creationism with evolution - I am good with this.  Let’s paint a picture that is even as opposed to lopsided.  Parents can advise their children on what is and is not.  I believe in a devine power as I am SURE that I DID NOT EVOLVE from a nasty ape.

Por (Lynn Simons) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

If our children are going to hear that evolution is a theory, shouldn’t they hear all theories? If you tell a child that “some believe this” shouldn’t they know what others believe? This bill makes a lot of sense to me.

Por (patrick dotson) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

“Rubio told the FBW, according to its Feb. 21 article, “I don’t want a school system that teaches kids that what they’re learning at home is wrong”....my question is…how do you know what poeple are teaching there kids or family at home…not everybody is religious and teaches religion at home…theres poeple that dont believe in god and jesus christ…and those poeple have that right to do so…theres tons of beliefs of what happened in our past and those beliefs should be allowed to be apart of society just as religion as been…people need to start being open minded about things in this world…

Por (Dave Langley) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

She wants ID taught in science class, under the pretense that ID has supporting scientific evidence.  The Dover court found that ID was not science - it was just creationism by another name.  If passed, this bill will be struck down.  There is a striking lack of peer reviewed ID evidence, which attests to it not being science - how could you possibly empirically falsify a theory premised on divine intervention?

Por (Heather Swett) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Bravo Mrs. Storms! Macro evolution is clearly a ridiculous explaination of the origin of the species and in my opinion, a religion unto itself that allows an individual to leave God out of their equation so they can live however they desire. I am delighted that there are still brave leaders who will stand up and defend this viewpoint. Science and creation are NOT mutually exclusive! The Bible tells us that God will allow knowledge to increase in the last days( Daniel 12:4) Finally, consider Darwin’s own quandry over the eyeball and how it couldn’t have possibly evolved. Now, through medical science, we have discovered how extremely complex even each indidvidual human cell is. Chew on that!

Por (Tyler Orr) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

bob—you think storms is questionable in THIS matter?? What about all the others… lorra, please, keep your child at home, the public school system is not the place for religious oppression of ideas, creationism doesn’t exist in the college lecture hall… except at florida southern, and dorthy, “secular religious” is a complete oxymoron!!!! how are those trying to keep anything other than pure science militant, the most militant groups ive seen in my 23 years of existence are religious ones… no body knocks at my door at 6am asking if ive thought about the joys of atheism…

just sayin

Por (Monica Bice) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Lorra Wilson, if you want your child to be ignorant, then PLEASE home school her! I don’t want my children being influenced by the fairy tails your daughter may tell them.

If ANY theories, other than the scientific FACTS of evolution are presented to my children in school, my children will NOT be present for those lessons.

School is about science, NOT religion. Wake up, and get with the times. We have a seperation of church and state for a reason.

If you want your child to learn fables about how everything was created in 7 days, put them in a private school that promotes such silliness! Do not use my tax dollars to do so!

Por (Dominic Benchilio) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Everybody just calm down.  Storms’ bill is pretty innocuous, though it certainly could be the first step in forcing Creationism as a specific counter-curriculum to Evolution.

Her bill does specifically prohibit a school district from firing a teacher because he/she teaches something counter to, say, Evolution, so long as they are “objectively presenting scientific information relevant to the full range of scientific views regarding biological or chemical evolution…”

Of course, like a good legislator, she doesn’t define any of this, leaving it wide open to interpretation down the road.  That is probably the more precise problem, or should I say goal, of this bill.

Por (Samantha Thomas) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

find it initially frustrating, and subsequently sad, that people spend so much time and energy fighting over evolution and creation.  Science, through experiment and observation, continues to support the theory of biological evolution.  However, the theory of intelligent design/creationism is not subject to the scientific method and should therefore be left out of the curriculum.  Please note, I do not wish to debunk religious faith; I understand and respect its long history and value to a vast majority of peoples.

Por (Anne Legault) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, religious or scientific.  It makes more sense to those with higher intellegence and common sense that this old earth was around millions of years before mankind.  We can’t dispute what archeologists have uncovered, many species have evolved over the milleneums.  When mankind crawled out of the cave and began society, laws were needed and the Bible and Ten Commandments were written.  Religion was the first organized political party, and still is. As far as Ms Storm’s agenda, I agree that both sides should be taught in school so that our future leaders will represent all citizens of our country and will effectively seperate church from state as our forefathers envisioned.

Por (patrick dotson) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

go to Zeitgeistthemovie.com and watch this video…and than tell me that we shouldnt allow different views to be taught in society…

Por (Will Foonman) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

This is outrageous.

We must protect our schools from these religious fanatics (like Storms) and their pseudo-science machinations.

Any intelligent person can see through this ridiculous “evidence’.

This “Alternative view” is nothing but a recruiting ploy for power hungry mega-churches.  These churches are threatened by science and fear that real science will undermine their control over their congregations.

Por (Craig Peters) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

So does this mean that private religous schools that receive public money through waivers must teach evolution as well so that the children there are “exposed” to both views?

Por (Adam Locascio) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Without going one way or another on this argument, how come whenever Ronda Storms gets attention, it’s for something trivial like this? First she’s trying to tax strip clubs to pay for elderly health care, now she’s arguing about what is taught in ONE class in school which, let’s be honest, is on a subject that has zero applicability in the real world. All of you inbreds in Valrico should quit re-electing this zealot and find someone who can solve your traffic problem.

Por (Pat Cook) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

With all of the recent upraor about evolution in our schools, how much longer will it be before there is another Scopes Monkee trial in a town near you? This is a silly discussion for grown people to be having in 2008. If a person wants to teach their children the biblical version to supplement the curriculum taught in our public schools, that is fine. But do it at home and not on my tax dollars.

Por (Phil lalli) on March 03, 2008 (Suggest removal)

Ronda Ronda Ronda!  Whe will you just go away and leave those of us who have evolved alone?  Enough trying to save the world form itself.  We ( the residents of Florida) look like such inept bufoons to the National and World media.  We can’t vote without dangling a chad, we can’t keep kids safe from sicko perverts and we can’t stop electing charlatains like RONDA!  Dog save us all!