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Posted Mar 10, 2008 by Catherine Dolinski, Tribune Tallahassee Bureau
Updated Mar 10, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Ben Stein (File Photo/Associated Press)
The debate over teaching in evolution promises to get even more interesting on Wednesday when actor/columnist Ben Stein joins conservative lawmakers and the Family Policy Council for a press conference to push Sen. Ronda Storms’ and Rep. Alan Hays’ “Academic Freedom Act” that would allow teachers to contradict the theory of evolution in class.
For Stein, it’s a chance to promote “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” his new documentary about the teaching of evolution in classrooms and backlash against dissenting educators and students. According to the movie’s Web site:
“All over the world, Big Science is on the march, making sure that Neo-Darwinian Materialist Theory is protected, and that any challenges and challengers are dealt with…properly. Science is too important to be left in the hands of just any scientists, no matter how ‘credentialed’ they may be! Which is why the administration at Big Science Academy thought it essential that students be made acutely aware of what happens to ‘dissenters’ who stray into dangerous areas of science after graduation. Our Science ‘Field Trip’ allowed Science Club students to travel around the world, and to see first-hand what happens to ’the expelled’ when they attempt to “follow the evidence wherever it leads.”
Lawmakers and staff will get an exclusive screening on Wednesday night of Stein’s flick, which debuts April 18 in theaters.
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Reader Comments
Por (Monica Bice) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
So is Ben Stein a scientist, and capable of understanding these theories? To quote the article “Science is too important to be left in the hands of just any scientists”
So we leave it in the hands of actors?
Tom Cruise is a great example of how this can be a very bad idea.
Stein, stick with acting, and stay out of my child’s classroom!
I can’t beleive that in 2008, this is actually still a debatable point.
Suggest removalPor (S Sherman) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Good thing not many outside of the bay area knows about Ronda Storms. I don’t think Stein would hook his wagon to this pony if he did his due diligence. Believe me there is always room for intelligent dialog and it makes it even more fun when no one knows the answer. But Stein is obviously going for the fringe when he associates himself with one who thrives on living in the past with her 80’s Ed Meese policies and can’t disguise her hatred for everyone who disagrees.
Suggest removalPor (Robert A. Evans) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Mr. Stein make a great argument- FOR people who have followed the “facts” for evolution through the fossil record. These people were often ridiculed by religious people as “dissenters”. Wonder if Galileo is still under house arrest? ( another great example of religion refusing to accept scientific knowledge ) Sometimes the “few” are correct and the many are wrong. I thought Mr. Stein was more educated than he is now showing.
Suggest removalPor (Mike Ferlita) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Don’t you know that the world is flat and that all of the universe revolves around the Earth? Why do these people feel that we should be obligated to force religious concepts down the throats of our students? Why are they not satisfied having the freedom to practice their religion in their churches? I am not a Christian and therefore do not want religious superstition taught in our public schools. Please only teach good, proven science. BACK TO THE DARK AGES!!
Suggest removalPor (Jim Pease) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
I’m amazed at the furor over these two issues. I’m 49 and I was taught several theories on the origin of the earth and mankind. And using the knowledge I had gained from school and life, I made the decision as to which I believed in.
Suggest removalPor (Fred Graham) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
To all you enlightened evolution geniuses to refer to the “factual fossil record” as proof of evolution, it isn’t. Evolution is a theory; there is no proof. There is also no proof of a creator; it is taken on faith, you know, the way your religion of evolution is also taken on faith. Ever hear of Einstein? Pretty good scientist, wouldn’t you say? He believed in God.
Suggest removalPor (phil Lalli) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
If I remember correctly, Ben Stein has a degree in Economics and Finance. What in the wide , wide,world of sports makes him an expert and even someone ( besides the fact that he does not live in Florida- lucky him)who should be chiming in on this. Ben, Buhler, anyone, anyone?
Suggest removalPor (John McDonald) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Evolution is a pseudo-science at best. You all are only proving Ben’s point by how viciously you attack it before even hearing any real information - the reason for this is because if there is in fact an intelligent designer, it threatens the nice neat little box of philosophical naturalism you live in.
50 years ago, this would not have been an issue. We live in a strange age indeed where God is not mentioned anywhere BUT in church.
Suggest removalPor (Jimmy Smith) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Mike Ferita let me name a few flat earthers for you…Louis Pasteur (helped develop science of bacteriology/ discovered the Law of Biogenesis / invented fermentation control / developed vaccinations and immunizations), Leonardo da Vinci (not only painted the Mona Lisa but helped develop science of hydraulics), Isaac Newton (helped develop science of dynamics and the discipline of calculus / father of the Law of Gravity / invented the reflecting telescope), Joseph Lister (helped develop science of antiseptic surgery)Listerine was named after him. They believed in God and Creationism. Oh and Monica Bice I suppose they wouldn’t be allowed to teach in your child classroom either.
Suggest removalPor (Joe Schmo) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
“Why do these people feel that we should be obligated to force religious concepts down the throats of our students?”
It’s interesting that you only want teachers to be able to teach the theory that you believe, but us “people” are “forcing religious concepts down the throats” of students, because we want both theories taught. Sounds like “YOU people” are ramming evolution down the throats of students, and are afraid of any sort of debate.
Suggest removalPor (Vivian Otero) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Come on people! Aren’t there better things to worry about? I studied EVOLUTION when I was in school in Dade County and I am still a Catholic only because of what my parents taught me at home. It is SCIENCE PEOPLE!!!! That Storms woman gets on my nerves!!!!!!I should have told her what I thought when I saw her at the Brandon branch of Sweet Tomatoes soon after Florida elected her.
By the way, great food! The veggies taste great thank to the great farmers who take such a scientific approach to perfect their crops—-Oh! Wait, no…I did it again! Sorry, I meant God grew the crops to perfection!
Let’s worry about the insurance crisis, taxes, and oh! The fact that WE DON"T HAVE MONEY IN OUR POCKET!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suggest removalPor (Monica Bice) on March 10, 2008 (Suggest removal)
Jimmy Smith, all those people would most certainly be allowed to teach in my child’s class, so long as they are not teaching about religion!
Do we really want to open the door to allow for religious based theories? Remember, if we allow one, we must allow all religious based theories.
Before you know it our children will come home explaining that Xenu had come and brought us all on his spaceship from a galaxy far away.
If we allow one creationism theory, then we have to allow for all. This could prove to be very detrimental, as many religions have various ideas about creation.
Religion, and creationism, and ID should stay where it is, in the church. That is why you take your child there.
Suggest removalPor (Let Your Life Speak) on March 11, 2008 (Suggest removal)
So we are reduced to this? BEN STEIN speaks to the Florida legislature as an authority on what constitutes science? And he isn’t kicked out on his gluteus as a money-mongering, politics-pandering charlatan? Does the FL legislature have ANY sense of perspective or common sense? Oh, wait, it’s FLORIDA, so NO. After all, we can’t have “just any scientists” weigh in, only the ones BEN STEIN thinks are legit. May I ask what BEN STEIN’s scientific creds are? Or even his religious creds? Or should I just wait for the laugh track?
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